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Old 04-20-2013, 06:48 PM   #21
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Default Re: 2000 Saturn SL - Front Wheel Bearing Replacement

I don't see how to bring a BFH into play. Or the threaded tool, for that matter. The tie rod end is almost directly below the axle.

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Old 04-20-2013, 07:01 PM   #22
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Default Re: 2000 Saturn SL - Front Wheel Bearing Replacement

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I don't see how to bring a BFH into play. Or the threaded tool, for that matter. The tie rod end is almost directly below the axle.
No. Did you read the guide at all?
The ball joint is directly under the axle, the TRE is 6+ inch's to rear of the car from the axle and roughly the same height as the axle. Plenty of video's on YouTube on how to get the ball joint out (Richpin....FiremanCV....1-2 others I can't think of).

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Old 04-21-2013, 02:05 PM   #23
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Default Re: 2000 Saturn SL - Front Wheel Bearing Replacement

Well, I got it off with some penetrating oil and a hammer and a punch. Now the problem is this: when I used the hub puller, it didn't pull the hub out of the bearing, it pushed the drive shaft back. Yes, I should have used a slide hammer.

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Old 04-22-2013, 08:51 PM   #24
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Got it. Thanks, everyone, this thread was very helpful.

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Old 08-10-2013, 09:41 PM   #25
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This thread is very good. I just want to add a few things from my experience that I hope will help others. I recently installed wheel bearings on my wife's 2001 SC2 with 190,000 miles. I also replaced the tie rod ends, ball-joint/control arm and struts.

First, if you are doing wheel bearings on a vehicle that has 150,000+ miles and all of the front end components are original, there's a good chance that many will also be due for replacement. While you're in there, its very easy to go a few extra steps to replace worn out parts. Plus, its virtually certain that you will mangle the tie rod and ball joint boots when separating them from the steering knuckle. Be sure to have new boots on hand or a totally new part.

Next, there's a chance that the slide hammer you borrow or purchase will not have an adapter that properly fits onto the wheel studs. This is what I ran into and it sounds like others have faced this problem. Fortunately I have access to a mill and was able to machine the slots on the adapter so it fit snug. This is just a warning that you may encounter this problem.

Next, when I used the slide hammer to separate the wheel hub, the bearing actually came apart (this happened on both sides). The outer race was stuck to wheel hub. On both sides I was able to use a cut-off wheel to carefully cut the race so I could get it off. After 190,000 miles and 12 Minnesota winters, I wasn't too surprised this happened.

Next, getting the bearing out of the knuckle was not as simple as removing the retainer clip and pressing it out. Again, 12 Minnesota winters of salt on the roads had the retainer clips on both sides virtually frozen into the knuckle. The solution was lots of heat with an acetylene torch.

After hitting the speed bumps I just described, re-assembly was pretty straight forward. The advice on this thread about pressing the bearings is good if you're looking for guidance.

If you're contemplating the job, make sure you either have, or have access to, some of the basic metal working tools I described. If you're working on a vehicle with lots of miles, chances are you'll run into some of the same dis-assembly problems I encountered. Without the correct tools, you'll be stuck. I would not recommend this job to someone with limited mechanical experience.

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Old 09-17-2013, 12:49 PM   #26
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What is the best Bearing to purchase? I purchased a set of Oreily's Lifetime bearings 1.5 years ago and have had to replace the right side once and the left side twice since then. The Right Side is making noise again, so I am planning to make a change of bearing suppliers. I am done with the junk. I am either looking at Timkins at Rock Auto, Moog at Advanced or going back to GM for the Saturn part. I was thinking about going with the Timkins, but wanted to get some feedback if anyone has had good or bad experiences.

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Old 10-27-2013, 01:33 PM   #27
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This looks a lot easier than it is...I am a do-it-yourself kind of guy and have a 2000 Saturn SL1..Have done countless jobs myself and am not happy to have to have stopped after removing brakes/caliper. Reason Nuts holding on the assembly were part of the steel surrounding it (I live in Canada, lots of salt on the roads in the winter) makes everything that's exposed rust. If I had the proper tools I might have made it. Point-Only attempt if you have an impact gun..or your parts are clean.

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Old 10-27-2013, 01:59 PM   #28
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Default Re: 2000 Saturn SL - Front Wheel Bearing Replacement

Did you try something like naval jelly, with phosphoric acid to dissolve the rust? A long wrench will give as much torque as any impact wrench, that's not "essential".

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Old 10-27-2013, 08:12 PM   #29
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I did mine today. The hardest part was finding something the right diameter to press the bearings with.


As others have mentioned:

One thing to remember is that if you are pressing the bearing in or out of the spindle, apply pressure only on the outer race of the bearing. When pressing on to the hub, apply pressure only on the inner race of the bearing. You don't want to put a lateral load on the bearing the while pressing it. Also, avoid putting pressure on the outer seal.

I actually used the old bearing to press the new bearing into the spindle. Once it was fully in, a couple firm whacks with a hammer got the old bearing loose.

Heat also works well if it is being stubborn coming out.

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Old 11-08-2013, 08:38 PM   #30
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I dont get why a slide hammer is used to remove the hub? Just press it out. I had to use some 3/4 bars accross the press but it comes right out

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Old 11-16-2013, 03:37 PM   #31
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Which adapter was used out of the kit? I bought the same kit, but was unable to find the correct adapter that would fit in the hub to press the bearing out.

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Old 11-19-2013, 09:23 PM   #32
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Default Re: 2000 Saturn SL - Front Wheel Bearing Replacement

I have a large socket set (one inch drive) and I just hunt through it and find one that works. If you don't have that just find anything of the correct diameter. For some bearings I have found pipe sizes that work. You can press the new bearing into the hub with the outer race of the old bearing. When you press the spindle in you need to support the inner race so find something of that diameter to use. I have a pipe piece that works well. You can find different pipe diameters or large sockets at the hardware store. Harbor Freight is also a good place to find big sockets that are inexpensive.

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Old 01-08-2014, 01:02 PM   #33
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I have never replaced wheel bearings for this car, but for another car I used a large vice and various sized pipes to press the old bearing out and press a new one in. In other cases I have hammered the old bearing out with a punch (old discarded kingpin), side-to-side (fairly forceful taps 180 degrees apart, but not too forcefully, as you can jam the bearing), since pressing out the bearing is more difficult than pressing in a new bearing (with a vice), since a large (larger than the diameter of the bearing) pipe must be used otherwise to hold the knuckle in place while the bearing is being pressed out. Another smaller pipe, smaller than the outer diameter of the bearing, is used to press out the old bearing and press in the new bearing. It helps to oil the new bearing well on its outer surface, and to soak the old bearing with PB Blaster as it is being worked loose.

A new bearing, of course, should always ONLY be pressed in, as hammering will damage the balls/rollers, and ideally the old one should only be pressed out if proper equipment is available, as there is far less risk for jamming.


....Your way is by far the BEST way, but for those who absolutely do not have access to a press, but may have a large vice lying around, there are possibilities....
Not saying your wrong but I tried to press these Saturn bearings out with a Harbor Freight 6ton bench top press the thing wouldn't budge. I would not recommend anything smaller than a 12 ton press as the poster used. Maybe my bearing was just in there real good though.

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Old 01-09-2014, 11:05 AM   #34
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Not saying your wrong but I tried to press these Saturn bearings out with a Harbor Freight 6ton bench top press the thing wouldn't budge. I would not recommend anything smaller than a 12 ton press as the poster used. Maybe my bearing was just in there real good though.
My bearings only came out with a 3/4" chisel and a BFH, in many pieces.

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Old 01-12-2014, 03:51 AM   #35
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mostapasta, did you always have that press or did you obtain it just because you have an S-series?

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how much in totlL

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Old 04-01-2014, 07:51 AM   #37
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What is the best Bearing to purchase? I purchased a set of Oreily's Lifetime bearings 1.5 years ago and have had to replace the right side once and the left side twice since then. The Right Side is making noise again, so I am planning to make a change of bearing suppliers. I am done with the junk. I am either looking at Timkins at Rock Auto, Moog at Advanced or going back to GM for the Saturn part. I was thinking about going with the Timkins, but wanted to get some feedback if anyone has had good or bad experiences.
THIS! I am on my 4th set of bearings in a year this month! The bearings came from Carquest, and after they were bought out by Advance Auto a set from there! This last set lasted about 2 weeks!!! Totally unacceptable!

Where are you guys buying your bearings now?

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Old 04-01-2014, 10:37 AM   #38
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I use Timken, but two weeks is too soon for any bearing. How are you doing R & R of the bearings? You should have the knuckle bore checked for out-of-round and size; an auto machine shop can do that

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Old 04-01-2014, 10:52 AM   #39
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No commercially available bearing will fail that quickly, consistently like that. There is something fundamentally wrong in the way you're replacing them.

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I've had a bad run with Moog, getting about 5000 to 8000 Kilometers out of them. I'm on my 3rd and with the last replacement I had them change the spindle nut rather then re-use the existing one. They are supposed to be a one time use nut but others have said that you can re-use them with lock-tite.

If that doesn't work then I'll insist that the shop removes the assembly and use a shop press to press the bearing in rather then using the on car method; this combined with a new spindle nut.

Fortunately Moog has a 3 year warranty and my mechanic is not charging for the labour to redo them.

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