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Old 03-01-2011, 12:48 PM   #1
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Default 05 Saturn Vue - All Cylinder Misfire and Evap Codes

I was thinking of purchasing a 05 Saturn Vue V6 FWD that had all of the P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0305, P0306 cylinder misfire codes and also the P0455 major evap leak code. The evap code should be fixable with a gas cap, but how difficult is the misfire codes. Looking at the other posts on here, they talk about fixing the crankshift sensor, but most posts usually rule out bad plugs or coils since it is all the cylinders misfiring.

The car is just under $4000, has 199,000kms (123,000 mile), and in generally good shape other than the codes. They didn't come up again the next test drive after clearing them.

Does anyone think this an easy fix or should I try a more expensive Vue without codes. Similar mileage cars here are about $2500 to $3000 more.

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Old 03-01-2011, 02:52 PM   #2
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Default Re: 05 Saturn Vue - All Cylinder Misfire and Evap Codes

I believe most important thing on my pre-purchase checklist would be to determine if the 100,000 major maintenance items were complied with.

Timing belt, plugs, valve lash check/set, coolant flush are on the list but water pump and timing belt tensioner are common-sense add ons when replacing timing belt.

You'll also need to check/replace other fluids, such as oil and transmission and perhaps consider replacing the brake fluid.

The misfire codes are interesting ... could be a false alarm, or not. The little guy would really spit and sputter if you had that many codes on same drive cycle. If they did occur, its possible the catalytic converters could be nearly cooked because each code generally presents opportunity for unburned fuel moving down exhaust system (cats hate this).

On the other hand - if the misfire was caused by fuel starvation - one or more injectors totally failing to operate - the cats might not be harmed.

Even good injectors won't help if the fuel pressure is too low for injectors to work with. So, this might implicate the fuel pump(s) or fuel filter (which is in fuel tank with the pump).

The EVAP code could be a loose gas cap.

Lets not even talk about mechanical stuff like tires, brakes, suspension, etc.

Finally, if you love the Vue - take it to a mechanic - pay a few dollars for an independent opinion. No mechanic will offer any guarantee but experienced eyes can usually tell if previous owners gave a damn.

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The EVAP code could be a loose gas cap.
Thanks far2grumpy for the advice. Most of the work was done on it and the fluids looked to be in decent shape. Purchased the car earlier in the week and have put over 500 kilometers on it already. It hasn't thrown a misfire code but the EVAP code and CEL came on within 10 kilometers of buying it. Purchased a new genuine GM AC Delco gas cap since the original one looked like a generic brand and light turned off by itself after a couple of starts. Getting the torque converter recall fixed on it next week, and we'll try to do a tune up on it with new spark plugs once it gets warm. Definitely lots of great advice on here and I'm really liking my first Saturn.

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