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Old 02-03-2003, 11:55 AM   #1
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hello, i drive a 1996 SL2 with 138k, five speed. its sitting out in my drive now, every now and then for some reason the horn goes off by itself!!! it has woken me up early in the morning becaise of this several times!!! Today this morning it finally went cbonkers!!! the horn was blaring like there was no tomorrow!!! it totally woke me up bad!!! i mean the horn was being layed on hard!! aggg!!!! so i quickly threw some clothes on and went outside and i got in the car, pressed the horn buttons but they did nothing, the horn still kept blaring, it did not even change the tempo of the sound or anything, so i started my car up, which was kinda trickey cuz the battery was worn down a bit from all the time my horn was being used, and i started the car and nothing changed, the car still would not shut the heck up!! i kept pressing my horn buttons and everything and it would not be quiet!! so finally after 2 minutes, it shut off, and then i shut my car off and went back inside, and here i am on the computer as we speak and teh stupid thing started blaring its horn again!! arrghh!!!! what to do? help the horn buttons do not stick or anything, so why is this happening?? aaggg its soo LOUD and Annoying! and it wakes me up in the morning!

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Old 02-03-2003, 12:15 PM   #2
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Pull one of the wires off the horn itself to silence it. Do you have the factory alarm, could be your key fob doing it.

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Old 02-03-2003, 12:53 PM   #3
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no i dn thav ean alarm on my vehicle, either!!!

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Old 02-03-2003, 12:57 PM   #4
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Sounds like the relay. The horn relay is a point set that is subject to errosion and deposit buildup as well as contamination. It's quite possible that through contraction of the metals in cold weather that the contact points are making contact. I would just replace the relay as the first solution. It could also be a short in the horn contact in the steering wheel. That one is a bit harder to solve.

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Old 02-03-2003, 04:50 PM   #5
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IIRC there was a recall on the '96's for the horn shorting out. perhaps your expierencing such a situation from yours.

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Old 02-03-2003, 04:52 PM   #6
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Found it:

http://209.58.136.120/rcls/nhtsa/pr98nhtsa/98v307.htm

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Old 02-03-2003, 04:58 PM   #7
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hello, i drive a 1996 SL2 with 138k, five speed. its sitting out in my drive now, every now and then for some reason the horn goes off by itself!!! it has woken me up early in the morning becaise of this several times!!! Today this morning it finally went cbonkers!!! the horn was blaring like there was no tomorrow!!! it totally woke me up bad!!! i mean the horn was being layed on hard!! aggg!!!! so i quickly threw some clothes on and went outside and i got in the car, pressed the horn buttons but they did nothing, the horn still kept blaring, it did not even change the tempo of the sound or anything, so i started my car up, which was kinda trickey cuz the battery was worn down a bit from all the time my horn was being used, and i started the car and nothing changed, the car still would not shut the heck up!! i kept pressing my horn buttons and everything and it would not be quiet!! so finally after 2 minutes, it shut off, and then i shut my car off and went back inside, and here i am on the computer as we speak and teh stupid thing started blaring its horn again!! arrghh!!!! what to do? help the horn buttons do not stick or anything, so why is this happening?? aaggg its soo LOUD and Annoying! and it wakes me up in the morning!
replace the horn. saturn had a tsb on them. my 96 sc2 did the same thing. the location of the horn on my 96 sc2 is different/worse! ;| than my 92 sc, which never got that wet and corroded. they used to mount the horn in the middle under the hood latch.

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Old 02-03-2003, 10:51 PM   #8
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The problem is most likely the horn. The horn relay is part of the horn on '96 cars

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Old 02-04-2003, 12:27 PM   #9
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This same problem happened to my 98 SL2 and pushing the horn button did nothing. I pulled the horn fuse to shut it down. The new horn I bought did the same thing so when I went back to the Saturn dealership they switched it out for another and I never had another problem since. Funny thing is to get a new horn with the same problem as the one I was replacing, it seemed to suprise the techs at the dealership.

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Old 02-05-2003, 12:29 AM   #10
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ok cool, so i am gonna call up the saturn dearship and see if i can get this fixed for free i hope

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Old 02-05-2003, 06:11 PM   #11
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You want Saturn to fix your horn for free? On a '96 with well over 100K?? Lotsa luck....I'd say a part that has lasted for 7 years and 100K had certainly done its job and is in no way defective. Horns go bad, simple as that, they are subject to harsh conditions, salt, rain, general moisture, extreme cold, heat, etc. If this was a new car I could see a complaint with the horn shorting, but come on. It's not like a horn is gonna set you back 1000's of dollars, I think they are less than $40. People are always trying to get something for nothing....it isn't Saturns responsibility to fix your car. There is a TSB relating to the subject and it is a known problem, it is NOT a recall. A TSB is technical information about a known problem provided to help techs diagnose the problem more quickly, it is not a recall and is therefore not free. While annoying I'm sure, your horn randomly going off is not a safety concern and would not be covered by any recall.

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Old 02-05-2003, 11:07 PM   #12
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Read the link posted above.... It's a NHTSA recall...

Although a randomly malfunctioning horn isn't a safety issue... Underhood fires resulting from this "failed horn assembly" IS!

Under federal law, safety problems must be remedied without cost to consumers.

Lets face it-- it's an obvious defective horn assembly present on the '96 to '97 models, and Saturn has a responsibilty to fix it. Whether or not recall applies to the car at hand, I guess you can take it in and find out.

Read the link and call the number on there. You will find out more information.

Good luck! I hope it gets fixed for free.

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Old 02-05-2003, 11:24 PM   #13
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This is interesting!My service history summary shows op code V0265 {98-C-01} "Horn Replacement replace horn" was done on the car on 3/24/99 at 22,465 miles.
I was wondering why they did that!
Weird,but I could swear one day as I pulled the key out of the ignition the horn gave a very breif toot.I put the key in again and repeated the motion and thought I heard it again!Has'nt occured since........

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Old 02-06-2003, 02:41 PM   #14
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well i called saturn today, they said there was no open recall on my vehicle for the horn, and they said it could be a bad door switch would cost about 90 dollars and an hour to fix............hhmmm oh well i tried....

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Old 02-06-2003, 03:25 PM   #15
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I may be wrong on this, but I do not see how the door switches could effect the horn operation on a '96. The '97+ models with the security system sure, but somthing seems wrong with that diagnosis.

Also, you may want to check with them to see if that recall was ever performed on your vehicle, since build dates of 7/95 - 2/97 should cover ALL of the '96 model year. I do not know the laws for recall very well, but perhaps there was a statute of limitations to have the parts replaced, so that was why there was no "open" recall for the car, but the symptoms seem to exactly duplicate those (except the fire part, fortunately.) of that recall.

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Recalls are forever. This particular recall was for certain '96-'97 Saturns. This vehicle may not have been included in the recall. Another possibility is that the recall was done early in the car's life. Either way.....
If the horn blows constantly it is not a door jam switch issue. If it blows every couple seconds on and off, then it may be an alarm issue and the door jam switch MAY be at fault.

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Old 02-06-2003, 07:43 PM   #17
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Recalls don't have a time limit, if it hasn't been performed, it would be done for free even if you brought it in 20 years from now. I don't see how a door switch would have anything to do with this problem. Why don't you just save yourself the $90 an hour, go down to your local Autozone, but a horn, and put it in yourself and fix the problem?

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actually, i'll try again, cuz i dont quite have the 20 bucks yet to spare since i just shelled out 600 bucks for school books, 150 for lab fees and another 50 for scrubs....any schooling done in the medical field is highly expensive, considering you need to pay $250 just to take your exam to get licensed-----so thats why i am trying to get this done for free

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