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Old 09-24-2010, 12:19 PM   #1
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Default Starter replacement, best aftermarket brand?

Looking to replace my 95 Saturn SW2's starter.

Is there any brands I should avoid or choose one over the other?

Can you go re-manufactured or is new the way to go on these?

There recently was a thread discussing aftermarket parts and ones to use/specs/etc. Any idea where that thread is?

Edit: Found that one, http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...ht=spark+plugs

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Old 09-24-2010, 01:48 PM   #2
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Looking to replace my 95 Saturn SW2's starter.

Is there any brands I should avoid or choose one over the other?

Can you go re-manufactured or is new the way to go on these?

There recently was a thread discussing aftermarket parts and ones to use/specs/etc. Any idea where that thread is?

Edit: Found that one, http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...ht=spark+plugs
Not sure if they're "the best," but I'm pretty happy with my replacement starter. It's a Bosch unit.

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Old 09-24-2010, 04:04 PM   #3
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Default Re: Starter replacement, best aftermarket brand?

I've had excellent luck with DB-Electrical in TN. Very prompt service, and the unit I have in there now was either new or so thoroughly rebuilt of an OEM Valeo unit as to be new.

http://www.dbelectrical.com/c-1397-19-liter.aspx

1 year no-quibble warranty. $41, + a few shipping option $12 and up. Hard to beat that. Heck the local U-pull-it-and-get-filthy junkyard wanted $20.

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Old 09-24-2010, 11:18 PM   #4
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Default Re: Starter replacement, best aftermarket brand?

i got mine from advance it was a valeo rebuilt starter it works good. it was $118

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Old 09-24-2010, 11:49 PM   #5
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I've had excellent luck with DB-Electrical in TN. Very prompt service, and the unit I have in there now was either new or so thoroughly rebuilt of an OEM Valeo unit as to be new.

http://www.dbelectrical.com/c-1397-19-liter.aspx

1 year no-quibble warranty. $41, + a few shipping option $12 and up. Hard to beat that. Heck the local U-pull-it-and-get-filthy junkyard wanted $20.
This would be my recommendation also.

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Old 09-25-2010, 05:37 PM   #6
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:29 PM   #7
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Default Re: Starter replacement, best aftermarket brand?

That db electrical place sounds like they have some pretty good deals. Unfortunately, alternators and starters usually fail quite suddenly. As a result I'll probably end up paying a lot more from my FLAPS, because I'd need to get the work done ASAP and wouldn't be able to go up to a week without my car while I wait for my part to arrive.

To answer the OP's question, AC Delco is the only brand that stands out to me though. The catch is that AC Delco parts are somewhat hard to come by at the big box stores like NAPA, AutoZone, or Advance Auto. With that said, excellent remanufactured parts can always be purchased from places like that. The more (not necessarily most) expensive parts that come with a lifetime warranty are usually my part of choice.

This is another area of car parts in which only three or four companies supply parts for the majority of the market. This means the exact same part is often sold at competing parts stores with only a different brand on the box.

Having worked for AutoZone, I can tell you that their Duralast hard parts are nearly always of excellent quality. Stay away from the cheaper Valucraft branded parts though. I had a lot of customers return them; particularly the older style Ford starters that don't have the on-board solenoid switch.

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Old 09-25-2010, 06:59 PM   #8
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If you have many miles on the car and the starter is original then buying the new one now is not the worst idea. Install the new one and keep the core as the emergency spare.

You usually get a warning of an alternator failure if you are paying attention.

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Old 09-25-2010, 07:28 PM   #9
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If you have many miles on the car and the starter is original then buying the new one now is not the worst idea. Install the new one and keep the core as the emergency spare.

You usually get a warning of an alternator failure if you are paying attention.
It's funny you say this because I was thinking the same thing. The net savings vs waiting for parts to fail and paying much more makes this a good idea.

I currently have almost 217K miles on my car so I'm thinking the alternator or starter is going to fail at some point in the near future. I already know that my starter has a bad spot in it, but I've been lucky enough to hear the firm clank of the solenoid (but no engine cranking) engaging and subsequently having to push start the car only 3 or 4 times in the four years I've had it. Once was in the middle of the summer, the latter three times it was the dead of winter. No rhyme or reason to it other than that. It doesn't matter if the engine is cold or warm. It did it twice for a cold start in my driveway and two other times just after I filled up with gas when the engine was already warm.

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Old 09-25-2010, 08:03 PM   #10
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Starters tend to just quit but alternators get weak before the go so you usually see dim headlights when you slow down and that is a big clue that its done for.

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Old 09-27-2010, 08:52 AM   #11
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How can dbElectrical sell a brand-new Valeo starter for $41? That's a fantastic deal. I bought a Duralast reman with lifetime warranty for $119 last winter (probably the same one capricess got at Advance for $1 less) and the internal paperwork said "Valeo."

No complaints thus far with the Duralast/Valeo starter, except that it sounds odd, like a Honda starter.

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Old 09-27-2010, 09:00 AM   #12
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The markup on auto parts is rather excessive. That is why AutoZone gets 120.00 for a 40.00 starter.

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Old 09-27-2010, 09:11 AM   #13
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I already know that my starter has a bad spot in it, but I've been lucky enough to hear the firm clank of the solenoid (but no engine cranking)
Have you tried cleaning out the starter / solonoid switch and contacts? I watched the youtube video on this (not Richpin) and it was super easy. I was having intermittant starter failure and found that the switch contacts were really cruddy. I cleaned it all out and have not had a problem since.

I also cleaned out the spare starter I have on hand. I love spare parts!

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Old 09-27-2010, 10:04 AM   #14
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NSA Starters are a direct replica of the Valeo Starters that were OEM in the S-Series.

Bought one a few years back on my 97 SW2, with no issues. Cost was around $120.

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Old 09-30-2010, 11:27 AM   #15
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My OEM $20 starter from the Junkyard is still doing its job

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When buying a "new" Chinese copy or a nice rebuilt it is only worth about $20.00 wholesale and $40.00 retail. I like the $20.00 JY specials.

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Old 10-17-2013, 10:18 AM   #17
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When buying a "new" Chinese copy or a nice rebuilt it is only worth about $20.00 wholesale and $40.00 retail. I like the $20.00 JY specials.

My car is a 2000 SL1 SOHC 187K MI

My starter solenoid was sticking so I went to the junk yard and got another one out of a 2002 SL1 SOHC, Installed it when I got home and now I have a new problem.

The solenoid engages when I hook the battery cables back up, even with no key in the ignition. I know the wiring is good because I started the car once more before I replaced it. The only difference in the starters is the signal wire terminal was on the other side of the solenoid. Looking up the part numbers and doing some cross referencing says this starter should work.

Did I just get the wrong starter or what? I'm about to buy one from the web site listed above but wanted to get some opinions first.

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Do you have it hooked up correctly?

The red battery and alternator wires both go on the large terminal that presently has nothing connected to it and is farthest from the actual starter motor. The purple wire goes on the small terminal closest to the block.

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Old 10-17-2013, 10:38 AM   #19
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That is exactly how it came out and how the new (used) one was installed.

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Either the JY starter is bad or something is fubar in the wiring.

I'd disconnect the main power to the starter (so it's not cranking) then hook up the battery. See if you have voltage to the purple control wire without turning the key; this would indicate something else wrong, like a stuck relay or ignition switch problem.

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