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Old 08-05-2010, 10:12 AM   #21
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That is sweet!

I wonder how hard it would be to remove the parts in case it was a family trip?
Is it all secured with fasteners?

I love my wagon so far, and had been thinking about different wheels. After seeing your pic, those wheels look great! Have to add that to the list I guess!
Just finished tinting mine last week. Makes it look a LOT better, and its cooler in the sun too.

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Old 08-05-2010, 11:53 AM   #22
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I secured the front frame/box with 4 screws and the rear with two towards the back. It kinda locks into the interior body contours so it's really very secure. I took it in and out of there many times while building and trimming it out. Only takes a few minutes to totally remove it. The most work would be taking out and putting back the OEM plastic piece under the seat bottom. It's bolted on with the seat belt bolts which can be difficult to remove. Other than that, most of the stuff goes in/out easily. Perhaps the box can be designed to fit over it (the plastic piece) but then no room for the sub.

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Old 08-05-2010, 09:49 PM   #23
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hein -

I *really* like that you can also use this mod for a sedan. If the sedan is a "working car" with tools and stuff, someone can do this. The wagons are best for hauling tools, but there are more sedans out there.

Here's a silly question. This would work on a 3rd-gen S-Series, yes?

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Old 08-05-2010, 09:55 PM   #24
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What size wheels/tires are you running? Also, did you lower it or is that an illusion?

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Old 08-07-2010, 01:40 PM   #25
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Thanks for those volume numbers, ruley73. I'll try to model up a box for 2 drivers with about 4 cubic ft. Can you suggest some reasonably priced speakers that I can design for?
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Old 08-07-2010, 08:47 PM   #26
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I have a '98 SW2, but I couldn't justify spending the money on plans, I would probably throw a piece of wood down and call it a bed. Yours does look really good though.

How much did it cost for the whole build?
in time and money, if ya don't mind.

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Old 08-08-2010, 11:03 AM   #27
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What size wheels/tires are you running? Also, did you lower it or is that an illusion?
17x7 wheels with 215-45 tires. It's lowered on Eibach springs but I have 1/4" thick plastic shims between the strut mounts and the body to reduce the drop a little. I sell the shims so PM me if you need some.

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I have a '98 SW2, but I couldn't justify spending the money on plans, I would probably throw a piece of wood down and call it a bed. Yours does look really good though.

How much did it cost for the whole build?
in time and money, if ya don't mind.
Didn't really keep track but I'm guessing $200+ in materials (not including sub + amp) and maybe 40 hours time including making templates.

If you remove just the bottom rear seat cushion then the back lays down flat. Just toss in a foam pad and you're car camping. I've done that a few times before doing this project.

I'd be willing to make up the plans and let someone verify them with a similar build. PM me.

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Old 08-10-2010, 12:42 AM   #28
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HECK YEAH!!!!!! amazing work, I've been looking for a wagon to go camping in and now I need to do this, amazing work Hein

I might be interested in getting those plans from you also

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Old 08-10-2010, 01:33 AM   #29
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also, looking further all of those supports are wooden correct?

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Old 08-10-2010, 03:54 PM   #30
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The flat pieces and top panels are all 3/4" (19mm) LDF.
But the top panels could easily by 3/8" (9mm) thick.
The square cross members are 2x2 pine.
Inside paint is Rustoleum black texture spray.
Top of the panels are Rustoleum multicolor texture spray
(color is Desert Bisque to match the interior)

The plans would simply be full sized templates for all the pieces in pdf format.
You can have them printed on a large format printer at your local copy center.

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Old 08-11-2010, 12:02 AM   #31
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If you remove just the bottom rear seat cushion then the back lays down flat. Just toss in a foam pad and you're car camping. I've done that a few times before doing this project.

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Old 08-11-2010, 11:54 PM   #32
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The flat pieces and top panels are all 3/4" (19mm) LDF.
But the top panels could easily by 3/8" (9mm) thick.
The square cross members are 2x2 pine.
Inside paint is Rustoleum black texture spray.
Top of the panels are Rustoleum multicolor texture spray
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The plans would simply be full sized templates for all the pieces in pdf format.
You can have them printed on a large format printer at your local copy center.
Thank you for this info

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Old 08-12-2010, 09:53 PM   #33
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I took out the whole back seat in my coupe, was thinking about making a custom speaker thingy like in the 350Z, and the trunk would extend a bit. Get rid of the package tray, weld in a bar to keep the rear stabilized (I race, too) and have a slick looking 2 seater with some good trunk space. Wish I could remove the roof, too, but would loose too much structural rigidity.

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Old 08-14-2010, 08:15 PM   #34
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I took out the whole back seat in my coupe, was thinking about making a custom speaker thingy like in the 350Z, and the trunk would extend a bit. Get rid of the package tray, weld in a bar to keep the rear stabilized (I race, too) and have a slick looking 2 seater with some good trunk space. Wish I could remove the roof, too, but would loose too much structural rigidity.
You should do it because that sounds like a cool idea. (except for removing the roof) Any pics of the 350Z? I have a wrecked 97 coupe in the JY so I might have a look to see if the contour behind the seat is the same as my wagon. Once you have frame with a level top it is not nearly as difficult to make templates for the top.

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This is very cool. I applaud you for bring back the "Business Coupe" type option that Chevy had back in the 50's. Of course the business coupe option was only on coupes but it was mainly a rear seat delete option with a platform in place of the rear seat. I also like that you have hidden the sub in there. Glad you could share.

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Old 04-29-2011, 10:36 PM   #36
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This is very cool. I applaud you for bring back the "Business Coupe" type option that Chevy had back in the 50's. Of course the business coupe option was only on coupes but it was mainly a rear seat delete option with a platform in place of the rear seat. I also like that you have hidden the sub in there. Glad you could share.
As far as "bringing back" that sort of thing, I'm pretty sure Chevy started selling the HHR Panel before he did this, but Hein still deserves props for a job well done.

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That is just flat out smack ! Love it. I like how people here are as offbeat as I am and use imagination and their talents to do some amazing things like this wagon. I like to go to events and used to drive my 6mpg motorhome. Well with the price of gas those days are gone. I could see how this vehicle would be perfect for the weekend air show/air race, NASCAR or SCCA race or whatever. How about pulling one of those cool tear drop campers ? Painted and with wheels to match you would be the hit everywhere you went. Now I want a SW to go with our SL2. Brother, your car is over the top cool

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That is just flat out smack ! Love it. I like how people here are as offbeat as I am and use imagination and their talents to do some amazing things like this wagon. I like to go to events and used to drive my 6mpg motorhome. Well with the price of gas those days are gone. I could see how this vehicle would be perfect for the weekend air show/air race, NASCAR or SCCA race or whatever. How about pulling one of those cool tear drop campers ? Painted and with wheels to match you would be the hit everywhere you went. Now I want a SW to go with our SL2. Brother, your car is over the top cool
I love hein's design also, (part of the reason why I bought my wagon :P ) but since i'm in collage I can't get rid of those rear seats, but am planing on doing something semi-like his idea :P

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Old 05-07-2011, 10:04 AM   #39
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i see where you got your inspiration from, Nick, haha.

Just recline your seat and sleep like i do

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That is totally cool!

I don't know when the change was made, but newer wagons had the metal crossbar across the seatbacks for safety in a side-impact collision. The older SW's didn't have that (like my Sw2) and thus the older SWs's rear seat folds flat (and I can fold down either side by itself rather than just the right side).

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