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Old 03-26-2010, 12:01 AM   #21
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i dont price em but as i said before i cant decide what it is worth. in some ways its like any other sky but its also number 4 of the last 8 built as 2010s (and it wasnt even supposed to be built) and the only one ever painted that color. who knows 39k might be too much or it may be too cheap.
I didn't think that you were the person determining the price. Perhaps, down the road, one of these '010's might be worth considerably more than any of the previous MY's. Only time will tell. Regardless, the SKY is and always will be a KILLER roadster.

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Old 03-26-2010, 08:09 AM   #22
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yesterday i saw a black redline vin number 00005. it is a beautiful car and looking at it i just have to think (at least my gut feeling) somewhere down the road im looking at a very valuable car. it may take 10 years but as you say only time will tell. in our state they dont even have license plate prices for any2010 saturn so it will be interesting when we sell one. we have 5 sky s and a bunch of outlooks in stock. also i know there are vues out there and i would bet some aura too somewhere.

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Old 03-31-2010, 05:04 PM   #23
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just saw another 2010 thats a new one only color. called laberyth or something like that. its a dark grey, like charcoal, with blue or purple specks in it. looks pretty nice.

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Old 04-21-2010, 10:54 AM   #24
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we ended up getting all 8 2010 skys. 4 black, 3 dk grey laberith (?) and the one blue. 2 have sold so far. many dealers inquiring. fun to be part of it.

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Old 04-23-2010, 10:35 PM   #25
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:14 AM   #26
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00004 is sitting right outside my office.

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Old 04-24-2010, 04:41 PM   #27
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Yes, Saturn planned on the 2010 model year with minimal changes to meet 2010 safety standards, some new colors and I'm not sure if there were going to be special editions like 2009.

The Skys built were preproduction runs that are normal for a new model year. The cars were built to sale specs and are now hitting the market. There are some Solstices and Sol Coupes out there as well. There is only one of these 30 2010 models I have an interest in since it is THE only one built like it.

The last Sky built you refer too was the 2009 model year vehicle and was built a week prior to the 2010 runs. Saturn or Pontiac couldn't 'advertise' any of the 2010's since the brands were being closed and GM has the option to crush or sell these cars. They were used in GM's PEP program. Looks like many of them will or have been sold through auction.

For anyone interested in more information, look at Skyroadster.com and Solsticeforum.com and you'll have to do some searching regarding the vehicles and the discussion. Some that works at dealers added what they could to the discussion and it will certainly clear up some of the 'speculations' posted here as to their existence and why they were built.

As far as price, well whatever the dealer feels they can get is what they will price it at. But to some degree, yes any 2010 Saturn Sky or Pontiac Solstice is going to potentially be worth some money down the road. Barrett-Jackson remarks on these types of information during any of their auctions. But what will drive the value is the collector's market and the demand for the Sky and Solstice models. Personally, I'd buy a 2010 before buying a new 2009 any day.

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Old 04-24-2010, 04:47 PM   #28
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we ended up getting all 8 2010 skys. 4 black, 3 dk grey laberith (?) and the one blue. 2 have sold so far. many dealers inquiring. fun to be part of it.
Not seeing the blue one on the site you posted a link to.

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Old 04-24-2010, 05:02 PM   #29
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we got all 8 2010 skys and 2 have sold. one of the sold ones was the blue one.

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Old 04-24-2010, 05:05 PM   #30
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neither saturn or pontiac planned to have sky or solstice for 2010. saturn for 2010 was aura, vue and outlook. a few thousand outlooks were built (some as recently as march) and i know of at lease one vue. havnt heard of any auras.

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Old 04-24-2010, 05:32 PM   #31
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neither saturn or pontiac planned to have sky or solstice for 2010. saturn for 2010 was aura, vue and outlook. a few thousand outlooks were built (some as recently as march) and i know of at lease one vue. havnt heard of any auras.
I suppose you'd know better than I would as you work at a dealership(?). However, (and not to prove you wrong, back in March / April of 2009, I was at my Saturn dealership shopping for a SKY Redline and did a fair amount of research as well and Charlie posted (an) update(s) on forthcoming / planeed Saturn models and the 2010 SKY w. auto transmission was to have remote start.

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Old 04-24-2010, 07:51 PM   #32
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actually you are probably right. i guess the decision to drop the sky came soon after that time.

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Regardless, it sucks GM dropped Saturn. They could've merged Saturn and Pontiac into Satiac or Ponturn or the like

I've been driving Hondas from '87 to 2008 and the new Saturn line-up was excellent from the AURA to the SKY to the VUE. GM was on the CUSP of doing something remarkable and...they dropped the ball...AGAIN!
At least they've paid the gov't. loans back early and American cars seem to be (re)gaining popularity due to (perceived?) quality improvement. I can say with relative certainty that my next car will be American -all based on my ownership experience of the AURA and SKY.

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GM was on the CUSP of doing something remarkable and...they dropped the ball...AGAIN!


At least they've paid the gov't. loans back early...
Yes, GM corporates and unions never adopted The SATURN Philosophy.



They borrowed $50B and "paid back" (With more borrowed money) $7B.
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i agree. saturn had a great line up of vehicles at the end. my 07 aura xr had been great and my 08 outlook was a great car although i just traded it because of some problems with 07/08 outlooks i didnt want to deal with. the biggest thing that killed saturn was getting rid of the ion and not replacing it with a lower priced higher volume car. lowest price 09 was a base aura at 24,200 dollars or a vue about the same. they gave up a big chunk of the market.

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i agree. saturn had a great line up of vehicles at the end. my 07 aura xr had been great and my 08 outlook was a great car although i just traded it because of some problems with 07/08 outlooks i didnt want to deal with. the biggest thing that killed saturn was getting rid of the ion and not replacing it with a lower priced higher volume car. lowest price 09 was a base aura at 24,200 dollars or a vue about the same. they gave up a big chunk of the market.
Well if the Euro vs US $ didn't fall off the cliff, the base Astra would have come in less than the Ion. And having owned an Ion, I can honestly say, the Astra is a far better car so far in my ownership experience.

But keep in mind too, GM/Saturn wanted to move Saturn upscale also hence the higher price point for vehicles and more standard equipment. I was at my retailer last week and the Kia dealer across the street is storing vehicles on their lot. For something that is suppose to be entry level, I find a Kia Soul in the $20K range? So Saturn wasn't so out of the ball park price wise.

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astra was a great car but more of an enthusiast car than a high volume car. we have a kia dealer and they are doing similar things that saturn did (moving upscale) but havnt forgotten lower end price. soul from about 13k and forte s from a little less. even the new 2011 sorento, which i think is an amazing vehicle, starts at under 20k.

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I would just like point those ask why where these built? all of the 2010 SKYs and SOLSTICEs share a common RPO: OAR - PRE-PRODUCTION BATCH BUILD.

These were built when there was still a chance of have a full 2010 production year. (which to think was still less then a year ago)

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astra was a great car but more of an enthusiast car than a high volume car. we have a kia dealer and they are doing similar things that saturn did (moving upscale) but havnt forgotten lower end price. soul from about 13k and forte s from a little less. even the new 2011 sorento, which i think is an amazing vehicle, starts at under 20k.
I don't know. If you look at the number of Astras built and sold worldwide, I'd hardly call it a low volume vehicle. I think to date they have sold 10 million since introduction about 8 years ago? I could be wrong the the start time.

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in the us they sold approx 15,000 of them in 2 years. thats not good.

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