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Old 11-19-2009, 02:12 AM   #1
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Default Can loose ball joints vibrate with high speed braking?

I need to replace the ball joints that are loose/worn soon on my new 98 SL1. I've got some pretty bad vibration when I brake at highway speed that mostly goes away when I get down to city street speed. Could it be caused by the worn ball joints or is it definitely a brake problem? I know at least one of the rotors has a nice groove ground into it. Not sure about the other or the pads.

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Old 11-19-2009, 08:20 AM   #2
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Default Re: Can loose ball joints vibrate with high speed braking?

Yes, but braking vibration is usually worn out rotors and/or cheap pads. Could be both as worn ball joints will throw the wheel alignment out and cause excessive tire wear.

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Old 11-19-2009, 11:32 AM   #3
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Default Re: Can loose ball joints vibrate with high speed braking?

I agree that most likely the brakes would be the cause of vibration before a worn out ball joint. If you think the ball joints are bad, cracked boots, or do not move easily, I would recommend replacing them. Having a ball joint fail while driving would be extremely dangerous.

I just recently replaced both of my lower control arms due to the boots being destroyed on both of my ball joints. I can recommend the Dorman lower control arms from Rock Auto, they fit well and were very inexpensive at only $32 per side.

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Old 11-20-2009, 12:25 AM   #4
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I witnessed a gross failure of a ball joint on an Oldsmobile years ago as I was walking to school.

A lady was driving up an off ramp from the freeway and I had noticed one of her front wheels was wobbling badly. Then suddenly the tire splayed outward at the bottom and the entire corner of the car dropped to the ground stopping her almost instantly. Anyone could plainly see that the lower ball joint had pulled out of its socket.

This was on a double A-arm suspension with a captive spring, so the spring forced the two arms apart when the joint let loose. Not quite the same setup as our cars, but scary (and close) enough.

The ramp was blocked, the car could not be pushed out of the way. The tire bent her fender as it flipped out. It was a mess. She was only going about 20mph in traffic at the time. Imagine if it had happened at 65mph?

If your ball joints are loose, yes I can easily believe that they could allow vibrations to occur or to intensify, even if the vibration is ultimately caused by something else (like warped rotors or out of balance wheels).

IMHO- Replace them before they fail somewhere or at some speed you'd rather not be at.

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