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Old 07-06-2009, 08:07 PM   #1
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we just bought an outlook xe 09.Mixed driving we get 12 to 14 miles to the gallon. No a\c in city driving. only high way with the a\c. the only thing that moves faster than the outlook is the gas gauge. It's a real pig. we where told 19 to 24mpg. We thought that maybe 18 to 20 mixed driving not 12 to 14.I bring it in this thursday the 10th. what should I be looking for?

Other than that it's a great suv.It's our first new car in ten years. Thanks SCott

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:32 PM   #2
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we just bought an outlook xe 09.Mixed driving we get 12 to 14 miles to the gallon. No a\c in city driving. only high way with the a\c. the only thing that moves faster than the outlook is the gas gauge. It's a real pig. we where told 19 to 24mpg. We thought that maybe 18 to 20 mixed driving not 12 to 14.I bring it in this thursday the 10th. what should I be looking for?

Other than that it's a great suv.It's our first new car in ten years. Thanks SCott
Just be patient! It took a few thousand miles to "break in", but it(like wine) gets better with age! Don't compare to others, just watch as it improves.

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Old 07-06-2009, 10:01 PM   #3
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I too was put off at first by the miles per gallon. Although during a trip on the interstate. It really improved. I am a firm believer that the computer is trying to adjust to your driving. Although things change so much with city driving that it cannot get a good balance. I did get the 24 and even better on the interstate/highway. City is a little rough. I also think it is a smaller gas tank than my old oldsmobile. So it just seems to be going faster. Really it just doesn't hold as much. Also remember it is a full sized SUV. Not a real economy car.
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:16 AM   #4
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3 things to check:
1. driving style.
2. driving style.
3. driving style.

seriously, everyone likes to beleive they have great driving habits, but we don't. there is ALWAYS room for improvement.
absolutely KEY to good MPGs is no jack rabbit starts, anticipate stopping (many people keep there foot on the gas right until they start to brake; try to coast to a stop) and accelerating more gradually to hwy speed.
I was able to improve the MPG in my VUE from 25 to 31 just by doing this.

also, the outlook is HUGE, w/ only a 3.6 engine to move it. the 24 mpg hwy rating is assuming 'conservative' driving habits. besides, NO ONE else's CUV/SUV is really getting those kind of numbers.

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Old 07-07-2009, 01:36 PM   #5
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I will second the fact that the gas mileage improves with a few hundred miles on it.

Not sure if this is during your break in period still (frequently changing RPM's ...etc) But that obvisously will put the hurt on the MPG.

I think as the engine loosens up a bit the MPG will go up also. Thats what i would attribute it to.

mine is fairly solid 21-24 on trips....around 19 around town (mixed).

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Old 07-07-2009, 01:55 PM   #6
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Thanks for the replies.I think that we will wait and see. We only have 1,500 miles on it.

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Old 07-08-2009, 10:48 AM   #7
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+1 on what twosaturns says, but yes, the computer may take a bit to learn and adapt, per se a "break-in period" and you should see better mileage. Also the terrain you drive in (hills vs flat roads, how many stops you make, etc..) will have an impact on your mileage. Most ppl I talk with are getting an average of 20 to 25mpg out of their Outlooks once they have been broken in.

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Old 07-08-2009, 12:02 PM   #8
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Try to inflate your tires to the highest PSI within the recommended range. This had helped me get add'l distance out of a tank.

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Old 07-08-2009, 05:24 PM   #9
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I got 16.7 towing a trailer from Indy to Pittsburgh and back.

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Old 07-09-2009, 09:39 PM   #10
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I too was put off at first by the miles per gallon. Although during a trip on the interstate. It really improved. I am a firm believer that the computer is trying to adjust to your driving. Although things change so much with city driving that it cannot get a good balance. I did get the 24 and even better on the interstate/highway. City is a little rough. I also think it is a smaller gas tank than my old oldsmobile. So it just seems to be going faster. Really it just doesn't hold as much. Also remember it is a full sized SUV. Not a real economy car.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:42 PM   #11
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3 things to check:
1. driving style.
2. driving style.
3. driving style.

seriously, everyone likes to beleive they have great driving habits, but we don't. there is ALWAYS room for improvement.
absolutely KEY to good MPGs is no jack rabbit starts, anticipate stopping (many people keep there foot on the gas right until they start to brake; try to coast to a stop) and accelerating more gradually to hwy speed.
I was able to improve the MPG in my VUE from 25 to 31 just by doing this.

also, the outlook is HUGE, w/ only a 3.6 engine to move it. the 24 mpg hwy rating is assuming 'conservative' driving habits. besides, NO ONE else's CUV/SUV is really getting those kind of numbers.
i try to coast when i can then break

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Old 07-09-2009, 11:06 PM   #12
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I had a car once that was the opposite; it would break, THEN I would coast.

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Sorry it took so long to get back, the dealer told me that my outlook needs to "break in".They found nothing wrong. Scott

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Old 07-18-2009, 06:51 PM   #15
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Depending on what you mean by mixed your mileage can really be off. Here in Amarillo there is not much highway driving, mostly street with lots of lights and stop signs. I average 13 to 14 when I don't press hard, but I tend to. This was the same with my 07 Outlook and now with my 09 Acadia (has the DI but that doesn't make a difference. On out of town trips I get 20 to 24 (better if you stick between 60 to 65 and worse if you are 70 and up). On the occasions that I do a lot of cross town driving and use the highway more I do see 16 to 17 in the city, but not often.

It has mostly to do with driving habits, using the remote start, and idle time.

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Old 08-13-2009, 01:45 PM   #16
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At less than 9000km on the odom' average 18mpg city and now avg. 28mpg hwy after a couple trips across the prairies ! The second one being in the spring where road surface conditions allowed use of the cruisecontrol 95% (?) of the time.

Of course this is Cdn imp. gallons and subsequent published values provided by the manufacturer state 22/34 mpg for my '08 XE


Definitely not a heavy footed driver as i seem to be accused of being a "granny" driver . . . . funny though how I pull up behind the previous passing speeder/weavers at the next light or stop sign though !!! And sometimes I give a lite tap on the horn with a big smile and wave to them . . . .

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Old 09-05-2009, 01:29 PM   #17
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What Kansen30 said. I posted this on the other Lambda sites and think it may add to what has already been spoken about here. Ya know, for a nearly 5,000 lb car with all its people and cargo carrying capacity, my experience is this vehicle gives bang for the buck.

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Have followed the various threads on gas mileage...some folks getting very good mileage and some folks getting not so good. Thought I would post this up and, moderators, should you want to marry this thread with other gas mileage threads, think it would make sense. Your call. Sorry, this will be a little long winded.

My 09 Outlook XR FWD was purchased on 7/28/09. This Saturn has all the options except heated/cooled seats (wish I had stumbled onto one with it). Needless to say we are very pleased with her. As I will be occasionally towing with her, stopped off at my local landscaper/stone/mulch provider and determined the actual weight, with a full tank of gas, is 4,940 lbs (without me in it)!! Rear Air, Sky/Sun Roof, Trailer Package and all Power Seats/Tailgate probably add to the ballparked weight of 4,700 + lbs. Ive read here. Our initial tank of gas was just over 15 mpg. We attributed this low start out # to just learning all about the vehicle (it DOES have a lot of technology. As we got to the 3rd tank, we found that the 2/3 highway 1/3 city running with the air for approx. 25% of the time generated 19 mpg.

Well, we just got back from a 2 day trip. I am impressed!! Here in SE Michigan, we dont have too many hills. Our first leg of this trip was from Chesterfield Township, MI to Granger, IN. Initial miles on this XR at the start of this trip was 1,056 miles. We logged a total of 319 miles of which 58 was strictly stop and go around town and 261 miles were interstate. I did not notice any head or tail winds on this trip. Was clear and dry...great start to this Labor Day weekend, eh? Decided to set the cruise to 65 mph. I AM in the habit of running at 70-72 mph but resisted doing so with this vehicle cause Im experimenting...I want to know where this vehicles sweet spot is on mpg. In other words, how fast can I go and still get 24 mpg or better. Oh, I should back up here. The XR was loaded with my wife, Cali the dog, and I plus 4 mounted steel wheels/tires (18 inch takes offs from a 2010 Camaro) plus overnight luggage (we probably had 600 + lbs. with all this).

We did stop twice to stretch our legs, run our dog and whizz LOL. First highway trip for this Outlook and we pumped 14.5 gallons on 319 miles of driving. Up to this point I did not pay attention to the DIC calculated gas used/average mpg etc... I just reset everything to zero. On our return trip we decided to drive down to Auburn, IN and take in the museum and activities there. I set the nav unit to shortest route which took us through small towns, all 2 laners with some stop and go. Beautiful country drive! Spent the mid morning/early afternoon then hit the road for home.

Chose the fastest route from Auburn, IN to Clinton Township, MI (luv this nav unit!!). Decided to set the cruise to 60 mph from the get go. Guys and gals, this was VERY boring to drive that slow of speed on the interstate! But, I stuck it out and watched the mileage rise from 20.2 from Granger to Auburn to a DIC indicated 24.2 at a rest area (about an 1 and half hours from home) on I94. Decided enough of 60 mph and kicked the cruise up to 65 mph. Kept her that way till we got off the interstate near home. Watched over that next hour and a half as the mpg on the DIC gradually rose from 24.2 to 25.2!! Just a sidebar on this. The tach indicated a 1,600 rs spin at 60 mph and 1,700 rs at 65 mph. Just before pulling in the driveway, I gassed her up. I pumped 11.25 gallons of gas and covered 283 miles. That calculates out to 25.2 mpg!! What I was pleasantly surpised to find is the DIC ALSO calculated that I used 11.2 gallons of gas and indicated I was enjoying 25.2 mpg!!! So, did I say I was impressed??? You BETCHA!!

On my next road trip I am going to see what happens setting her at 67 mph does for her as well as 70 mph. All this to find that sweet spot.

Stay tuned.

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Depending on what you mean by mixed your mileage can really be off. Here in Amarillo there is not much highway driving, mostly street with lots of lights and stop signs. I average 13 to 14 when I don't press hard, but I tend to. This was the same with my 07 Outlook and now with my 09 Acadia (has the DI but that doesn't make a difference. On out of town trips I get 20 to 24 (better if you stick between 60 to 65 and worse if you are 70 and up). On the occasions that I do a lot of cross town driving and use the highway more I do see 16 to 17 in the city, but not often.

It has mostly to do with driving habits, using the remote start, and idle time.

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Old 09-19-2009, 05:10 PM   #18
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So many nice tips, I liked this thread. So far I was thinking low millage is only due to high speed, frequent breaking and inappropriate throttling.

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