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Old 09-20-2009, 09:11 PM   #1
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Have to replace the horn on the 97 SC2. I could go OEM or something bigger and better. Anyone do anything unique with your horn?

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Old 09-20-2009, 09:43 PM   #2
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I wired up an aftermarket horn in my wife's SC1 when the OEM quit, since the design with the built-in relay annoyed me. Unfortunately, the horn wasn't any louder than stock, in spite of all sorts of claims on the packaging that it was very loud. I think I need to dig back into it & replace either the relay or horn again, as it has once again faded into non-function.

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Old 09-20-2009, 10:01 PM   #3
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Have to replace the horn on the 97 SC2. I could go OEM or something bigger and better. Anyone do anything unique with your horn?
Think of the fun you could have with one of these. http://www.hornblasters.com/

If you go the relay route you need at least 500 ohms of coil resistance to prevent burning up the flimsy horn buttons and be sure to install an arc suppression diode across the relay coil. Another across the horn power relay contacts is not a bad idea either. You can get the relay cheap here. http://www.allelectronics.com/

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Old 09-20-2009, 10:08 PM   #4
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Would have to find the room under the hood to do something like this, but it would be an attention getter.

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Old 09-20-2009, 10:41 PM   #5
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Compressor in the trunk and heavy duty power back to it. If I had one I would find room. I have had loud horns before and they are great sport. I would love to have one for the idiot with the cell phone crammed in their ear and their lip flapped up over their eyes.

More linkage. http://www.trainhorn.org/ Has sound files. There are some that get up to 165-170 DbA. That would require some decent ear protection to be donned before initiating a gentle toot.

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Old 09-20-2009, 10:52 PM   #6
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The larger the diaphragm and the larger the throat diameter the louder and lower tone. This started life as a steam horn.

http://cgi.ebay.com/TRAIN-HORN-LOCOM...d=p3286.c0.m14

Move the battery to the trunk and it will fit. Probably will need a WAI also.

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Old 09-21-2009, 01:09 AM   #7
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Funny, I was just at All Electronics in Van Nuys week before last. Neat place. I bought a new surplus power window motor (looks like from a VW) to motorize the height adjustment on our garden tractor.

To the subject-

Any plug-in replacement will probably sound like the original unfortunately.

I did the relay/airhorn (Fiamm) thing on my 97 SC2 a couple of years ago (search for "meep meep"). It worked but in the end water that got splashed up into the front fender well cavity somehow ended up taking out the compressor.

There are 30 amp capacity cube relays that will work very well for the purpose, All Electronics does carry those, and they are sealed from the elements. Get the pre-wired connectors if you can. Saves a lot of grief.

However, take it from me, mount the compressor somewhere high and dry, and preferably with the air inlet pointed down if yours will allow it. Mine had to be mounted inlet up according to the case markings. Seems kind of dumb but that's how it was.

It sure was nice while it lasted though. I haven't gotten around to redoing it with another brand and am running the pathetic OEM horn at the moment. Meep meep.

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Old 09-21-2009, 07:05 AM   #8
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Fiamm makes a cheap high/low electric horn combo that gets some respect on the road. Used the supplied straight brackets to make a "V" shaped one, and used the existing horn mounting screw at the base of the V to hold them together.

Has also used Hella "Supertone" horn sets, which claim to be the loudest horns available. They certainly are loud, but a little too high pitched for my liking.

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Old 09-21-2009, 11:33 AM   #9
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http://www.hornblasters.com/

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Old 09-21-2009, 12:09 PM   #10
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Next time your at a good wrecker look for a big old Caddy. Even some of the newer ones will have em as well. If you find the right one you'll have about 6 or so horns to remove! Get em all as they are different notes. Do a relay addition and use a dedicated, fused, ten gauge from the UHJB positive post.

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Old 09-21-2009, 03:35 PM   #11
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Would have to find the room under the hood to do something like this, but it would be an attention getter.
take out the AC compressor

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Old 11-24-2009, 12:05 PM   #12
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Is this everything that I would need to install a train horn on my frontier? I have absolutely no mechanical experience. Will I need to get someone to install it for me, or can anyone install it?

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Is this everything that I would need to install a train horn on my frontier? I have absolutely no mechanical experience. Will I need to get someone to install it for me, or can anyone install it?

For real train horns, you'll need the horns, an air tank and compressor. Plus all the lines, valves and wiring. And the most important part, space to mount it all.

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Old 11-28-2009, 11:13 AM   #15
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While I had a service warranty with Saturn my horn was replaced 7 times over the 5 year service warranty period. My mechanic replaced the 7th OEM with something from Auto Zone. It lasted 5 years. I've been running without a horn for 6 months. After viewing richpin06's video on horn replacement, I feel comfortable with doing the replacement myself. I think I will opt for a NAPA or Auito Zone replacement.

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If you have a 3 terminal horn you need to use a relay or you will burn out the horn button contacts instantly. If it has already been re-engineered to a 2 terminal horn then the "new' relay may have died. This is the original 98/99 wiring diagram. Watch the polarities.

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my Saturn has two horns. one is under the fender and the second one is under the hood next to the latch where Saturn originally mounted them before 96. the mounting hole is there so I used a stock 91-95 bracket for it and taped into the factory wiring.

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do saturns have dual horns or only one? i see one under the driver's side leadlight pod on my car, & it sounds like only one horn.....

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One, unless its been modified.

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ya that's why it's not so loud, but ya know me it's staying stock....

all cars should have dual horns though in case one goes out, just a safety thing...

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