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Old 07-16-2009, 10:22 PM   #1
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Mike O'Rourke, president of UAW Local 1853, via the Tennessean: What we factually know is that the Spring Hill Manufacturing facility has been placed in GM's good-asset inventory and that, as of today, the Chevrolet Traverse, which currently is built in Spring Hill, is scheduled to move to Michigan in November.

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Old 07-22-2009, 09:32 AM   #2
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If you read the full article, it basically says that due to a bunch of lobbying by politicians and UAW head cheeses, the Spring Hill plant was moved from the "definite closure" status as part of the "old GM", to "idle/standby" status and as part of the "new GM" (the "good" parts). While I don't want to see Spring Hill shuttered, the fact is that most of the plant will be idle for the foreseeable future, and it will serve as excess capacity in the off chance the market picks up and is better than what the Viability Plan has projected.

A fact not mentioned in the article is that the Chevy Traverse, which Spring Hill currently builds, is one of FOUR vehicles built on the same platform, the ONLY one not built at the plant in MI (which is where Traverse production is shifting to this fall). One of those stable-mates is the Saturn Outlook, which will not be produced by GM past 2010 MY, last I've read, so that further reduces the need for Spring Hill. The current plant building the other models is already capable of picking up the slack and taking on the Chevy. Unless demand for LARGE crossovers somehow goes through the roof, GM won't be pushing production of these vehicles back to Spring Hill.

BEST CASE scenario, in my mind, for Spring Hill, is that GM finds a home for the outgoing Pontiac G8 in the Chevy or Buick lineups (*ahem* Impala!), and they start producing them at Spring Hill instead of importing them from Australia. OR... The new small cars (Cruze, etc) that GM is bringing out in the next year or two take off like wildfire and they use Spring Hill to build more of them. I see the G8 scenario as quite unlikely (but if gas stays cheap and the economy gets a lot better in the next 6 months, it could happen). I see the compact scenario as more likely, but still less than "likely" to happen.

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Old 07-22-2009, 11:57 PM   #3
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BEST CASE scenario, in my mind, for Spring Hill, is that GM finds a home for the outgoing Pontiac G8 in the Chevy or Buick lineups (*ahem* Impala!), and they start producing them at Spring Hill instead of importing them from Australia. OR... The new small cars (Cruze, etc) that GM is bringing out in the next year or two take off like wildfire and they use Spring Hill to build more of them. I see the G8 scenario as quite unlikely (but if gas stays cheap and the economy gets a lot better in the next 6 months, it could happen). I see the compact scenario as more likely, but still less than "likely" to happen.
The G8 is done for, not coming back as another model. More than likely Holden rebadged cars are done for the US. One of the more recent dumb decisions by GM I must say

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Old 07-25-2009, 08:28 PM   #4
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With the shutdown due Nov 31. (and it could be sooner) more than 500 UAW $30.00 per hour employees have signed to take the retirement/ buyout package. Plus all the current salary employees in general assemble are being offer retirement or transfers to other plants, or separation. THEY ARE CLEANING HOUSE and will start up with almost an entire $15.00 an hour UAW.
And an a all new younger/lower paid salary team. This plant will be building product for 2012 model year.

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Old 07-25-2009, 09:29 PM   #5
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With the shutdown due Nov 31. (and it could be sooner) more than 500 UAW $30.00 per hour employees have signed to take the retirement/ buyout package. Plus all the current salary employees in general assemble are being offer retirement or transfers to other plants, or separation. THEY ARE CLEANING HOUSE and will start up with almost an entire $15.00 an hour UAW.
And an a all new younger/lower paid salary team. This plant will be building product for 2012 model year.
Don't you work at SH? I haven't heard of anything definate being built yet or for 2012

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Old 07-25-2009, 11:16 PM   #6
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Don't you work at SH? I haven't heard of anything definate being built yet or for 2012
No, I do not work at Spring Hill. You won't hear anything definate untill they move all the those $30.00 per hour people out.

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No, I do not work at Spring Hill. You won't hear anything definate untill they move all the those $30.00 per hour people out.
Since you don't work at the GM Spring Hill plant, it makes me wonder where you get the idea that there is going to be a product for sure in 2012. People that work there have not even been told of a product being built for sure in the near future let alone at a later date, so I doubt that you'd be first to know over them unless you work in the Renaissance Center

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Since you don't work at the GM Spring Hill plant, it makes me wonder where you get the idea that there is going to be a product for sure in 2012. People that work there have not even been told of a product being built for sure in the near future let alone at a later date, so I doubt that you'd be first to know over them unless you work in the Renaissance Center
Go easy on Red96... from what I recall, he's from the area and has been pretty accurate with rumors like this in the past.

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Since you don't work at the GM Spring Hill plant, it makes me wonder where you get the idea that there is going to be a product for sure in 2012. People that work there have not even been told of a product being built for sure in the near future let alone at a later date, so I doubt that you'd be first to know over them unless you work in the Renaissance Center
I don't work there now, I retired last Nov. after 32 years with GM. That 2012 date was when the plant was to get additional product along with the Traverse. That from what i've been told that is still the current time line. Now this things remain the the bad like the are now that could be pushed back.

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I don't work there now, I retired last Nov. after 32 years with GM. That 2012 date was when the plant was to get additional product along with the Traverse. That from what i've been told that is still the current time line. Now this things remain the the bad like the are now that could be pushed back.
Since the Traverse is going to Lansing after November, possibly sooner, things may have changed since that was originally said. GM will keep it going for now with powertrain and maybe other limited areas supplying parts for the Traverse and maybe other lambdas if there is a demand, but as far as actual vehicles I don't see it happening unless thinks really pick up for GM

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