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Old 11-24-2002, 10:18 PM   #1
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Devil Starter Removal

Ok I don't know who the sadistic engineer is for this starter set up but I think they should be sentanced to 5 yrs of hard labor fixing every saturn owners starters. After spending an hour becoming a contoursionist, the top bolt finally gave way! Does that bolt really need to be nearly 3 inches? Do you realllly need to have it in the most unaccessable spot one could ever think of? Was there some fight going on between the engineers and the mechanics on this day?

Saturn Mechanics you have my deepest sympathy. The biggest concern is how am I ever going to get this thing back on there without my hands becoming a crumpled mess!!

On the lighter side, once I did have it out, I tried to bench test it. Only thing happening with that starter is it's going to the rebuild bench as a core. Tried jumping it from the battery to the solenoid and it didn't even groan. Hopefully, NAPA will have a starter, because Kragen has to order it in 2 days and so does Autozone. $99 from Kragen, $190 from autozone and $158 from Napa.

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Old 11-24-2002, 11:22 PM   #2
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MSGJVH, I feel your pain. I had to switch mine out about three years ago. It took me darn near 5 hours to complete. I felt like I was going to have that permanent bend in my wrist forever! Can anyone say "hand cramp?" Saturn isn't known for positioning things in the most "user-friendly" places.

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Old 11-25-2002, 05:56 AM   #3
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Oh man.. I so know your pain. I had to change the starter on my 96 SC2 and I lost it.. I don't have patience anyhow so it didn't help trying to get my big hands up there... Oh yeah, try doing it in the snow!!!!

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Old 10-28-2004, 09:14 PM   #4
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Oh man, This no fun...

My starter is going and I have tendonitus (sp?). Anyone have a hint or inking on how to replace the starter in an 02 sc2?

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Old 10-29-2004, 09:38 AM   #5
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It may sound overkill, but remove the whole intake mainfold first and your starter replacement job will not be so miserable.

Removing the Intake requires Coolant drain and many more bolts to unscrew, maybe too much for someone who rather working underneath instead.

I thought Saturn's Starter is quite reliable, not?

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Old 10-29-2004, 12:44 PM   #6
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Remove the intake manifold? I thought that was pretty hard to do! One of the bolts (under the ps pump) is supposedly very hard to get off, kinda like the bolt for the starter!
You do have to mess w/ fuel system & power steering pump to get it off, correct?

Well, if it's not that hard I might get mine "extrude honed" while it's out and paint it a pretty color if I ever have to change my starter.

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Old 10-29-2004, 03:25 PM   #7
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No need to mess with fuel rail, just unscrew the main fuel line to it. No need to take out the Power steering pump either, just unbolt 3 and move it aside.

I didn't mean this is the best way to do starter by taking out the intake, but this will give ton of space to mess with the starter more easily.

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Old 10-29-2004, 06:47 PM   #8
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I swapped one last spring, took me about an hour...not the easiest one I've done, but not that bad, either. Get some long extensions, that helped me.
The WORST starter change I did was on the '87 Turbo Sunbird I used to have; I couldn't even SEE the damn thing! Had to use a mirror to find the bolts, took me the better part of a day in single-digit weather to change it.

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Old 10-29-2004, 07:28 PM   #9
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For what it is worth, it is easier when standing under the car while it is supported on a lift. On your back, it ain't fun. I've done it both ways at this point...anybody got a used lift they want to give away...?

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Old 10-30-2004, 10:15 PM   #10
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Be careful when you install the new starter that you go easy on the torque on the electrical connections. If you go too tight you WILL crack the plastic housing, which won't prevent proper operation but may let environmental contaminents in and reduce the life of the starter, which is a PIA to replace as you stated.

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Old 11-01-2004, 09:15 PM   #11
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Argh, well I got the tools to do it but no lift.... Mabey I can rent some shoptime from the guy down the road. well no matter come pay day i have a little work to do. The rear sway mount connecting rod thing has gone bad ($95 from Saturn) and a new starter ($289 from Saturn $160 from Advance witch one would you get?)

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Old 11-01-2004, 09:55 PM   #12
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What's the big deal? Two little bolts, right out there in the open. Piece of cake.

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Old 11-01-2004, 11:26 PM   #13
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you cheated Razorbak, you took the whole engine out!(maybe that would be easier)

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Old 11-02-2004, 12:50 AM   #14
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.....Wow...... That is a pretty motor... DIBS.

Anyway I now know right whare the bolts that I have to get out are. I am thinking a 2' extention and a univeral on the end will do it.

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Old 11-02-2004, 01:17 AM   #15
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Quote:
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.....Wow...... That is a pretty motor... DIBS.
you want it? razorbak is not using it for anything.


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