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Old 05-13-2009, 07:23 AM   #1
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Default Check Engine Reset!!!!

I noticed my gas cap has been recently becoming more and more loose after each fill. Basically after 4 years the plastic on the cap is wearing down. On Sunday after my fill-up my Vue threw a CE Light. I figured it was the cap because it didn't even tighten.... just spun. I went to NAPA and picked up a replacement cap. They had a direct replacement and not a "Univseral" replacement cap.

Check engine light is still on. I ran an ODBII scan and found nothing. I disconnected the negative on the battery and its still there. I read on some websites there is a method of resetting through the fuse box but I can't find anything that says "Reset" on it.

I have a 2004 Saturn Vue (4 cyl).

Any help???

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Old 05-13-2009, 07:34 AM   #2
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Default Re: Check Engine Reset!!!!

If it was indeed the cap, the light will go out on its own within a few days or so (depending on your driving habits) when the PCM see's the condition is absent through enough ignition cycles.

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Old 05-13-2009, 07:38 AM   #3
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Yeah this has actually happened before. Ran the CE Light for a few days and it went away. I just didn't know if there was a way to reset the light rather than wait 4 days. I see the CE Light and I think "BOOM" instead of just the gas cap

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Old 05-14-2009, 11:22 AM   #4
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UPDATE: I checked the codes at 2 different places and both said there are 0 errors in the car. Neither of them could clear the warning light because there was nothing to clear. They suggested going to the dealer but I know Saturn would probably hose me.

My gas cap was loose when the light went on and I replaced the gas cap with a NAPA Auto Saturn Replacement Cap. Drove about 40 miles since the light has come on, about 30 since it was replaced.

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Old 05-14-2009, 11:45 AM   #5
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UPDATE: I checked the codes at 2 different places and both said there are 0 errors in the car. Neither of them could clear the warning light because there was nothing to clear. They suggested going to the dealer but I know Saturn would probably hose me.

My gas cap was loose when the light went on and I replaced the gas cap with a NAPA Auto Saturn Replacement Cap. Drove about 40 miles since the light has come on, about 30 since it was replaced.

Thoughts?
It's probably a GM - Saturn specific code not readable by standard OBDII devices ... use this link for more information on similar problem:

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...ight=CEL+CODES

BTW, I've read somewhere - some vehicle - CEL's caused by loose/defective gas cap may clear after 40 to 50 ignition cycles.

I did a quick check of Saturn documentation and have not found - yet.

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Old 05-14-2009, 12:03 PM   #6
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When you disconnected your battery, how long did you leave it disconnected for? Did you do anything while the battery was disconnected?

On other vehicles, sometimes you have to wait 15 minutes after you've disconnected the battery for the ECU to lose all remaining power and reset itself. Or applying the brakes a bunch of times that will speed up that process. I've also heard that if you touch the negative battery cable to the positive cable, that will also work.

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Old 05-14-2009, 12:05 PM   #7
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Default Re: Check Engine Reset!!!!

I read that if the gas cap was loose or defective that a new cap wouldn't simply remove the error. The drive cycle is a high speeds for a few minutes with accel and decel. I don't even get above 45 on my way in to work and back so I am going to take a highway route home and see what happens.

The other thread was informative but didn't really give me an answer.

Thanks for the help though!

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Old 05-14-2009, 12:06 PM   #8
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I waited about 3-5 minutes once the negative was disconnected. Should I wait longer?

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Old 05-14-2009, 12:20 PM   #9
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Try it again waiting 15 minutes while you pump the brake pedal a few times.

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Old 05-14-2009, 12:38 PM   #10
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I will try that and let you know!

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Old 05-15-2009, 06:52 AM   #11
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Solution: I did remove the negative and let it sit for about 30 minutes. Before I reconnected I noticed the clock was still on so I hit the breaks a few times and the clock when out. Reconnected and everything is fine.

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Old 05-16-2009, 03:17 PM   #12
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When you disconnected your battery, how long did you leave it disconnected for? Did you do anything while the battery was disconnected?

On other vehicles, sometimes you have to wait 15 minutes after you've disconnected the battery for the ECU to lose all remaining power and reset itself. Or applying the brakes a bunch of times that will speed up that process. I've also heard that if you touch the negative battery cable to the positive cable, that will also work.
yeah u get like a metal piece of wire or etc disconnect both wires from battery and touch them together for like 15-30 seconds it can reset pcm or if they are able to touch together without a piece of wire be my guess

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Old 05-16-2009, 03:57 PM   #13
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Solution: I did remove the negative and let it sit for about 30 minutes. Before I reconnected I noticed the clock was still on so I hit the breaks a few times and the clock when out. Reconnected and everything is fine.

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I had your answer but someone beat me to it! Happened to me in my Dakota that was stolen (replaced with a Vue ), only I left the gas cap on top of my toolbox and drove away. That light came on and drove me nuts! I just replaced the cap and reset the computer by killing the power for 20 minutes or so... You want to do a reset like that after doing anything to the motor, even after changing your air filter, spark plugs etc.

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