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Old 04-28-2009, 05:34 PM   #1
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Information Telesto reiterates Saturn Interest Today

This just came in today:

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...14&newsLang=en

Telesto Ventures: Saving 10,000 American Automotive Jobs
Investor Group Proposes to Save Saturn Retailers

DALLAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Telesto Ventures, an investor group that includes private equity firm Black Oak Partners, LLC, and a number of Saturn retailers, reiterated today its intent to acquire Saturn Distribution Corporation (SDC) in its ongoing effort to save more than 440 US and Canadian Saturn retailers and preserve an iconic American brand. The group put forth its intentions to GM on April 9th.

The goal of Telesto Ventures is three-fold:

save more than 10,000 auto retailer jobs and enhance the original Saturn model for delivering a best-in-class customer experience;
save the American taxpayers and General Motors hundreds of millions of dollars and avoid the significant negative impact to local economies that shuttering Saturn dealerships across the US would create; and,
successfully deliver a model that enables more fuel efficient and greener automobiles to come to market and meet the growing demand in America.
“This as a win-win for everyone involved. It keeps more than 10,000 Americans productively working at a time when it is critical to keep our economy moving. Our plan costs GM and the American taxpayers nothing; and, it alleviates one of the major problems GM is dealing with,” said John S. Pappanastos, a spokesperson for the investment group. “The beauty and early success of Saturn was that it was a model built very differently than anything in the auto industry to date – it put as much weight on the customer experience as on the physical product. We’ve assembled a team that has the experience and track record that can successfully de-couple it from General Motors and operate it as it was originally intended.”

The “new” Saturn Distribution Corporation (nSDC) will leverage Saturn’s brand and focus on product sourcing, quality assurance, distribution, competitive analysis/positioning and national branding. nSDC’s low-asset, lean-distribution model will offer a number of advantages in the current environment, and the Saturn network will provide the ideal platform for creating this model instantaneously.

“These unprecedented times are putting significant financial pressure on the Saturn retailers, and time has become of critical importance to them,” said Pappanastos. “We can appreciate the challenges that GM is facing under dire economic circumstances and very short timeframes. We are positioned to work with them in a very expeditious manner to put in place a mutually agreeable plan that will save critical American jobs through a viable ongoing Saturn.”

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Old 04-29-2009, 09:00 AM   #2
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The question I have is who is Telestro, and do they actually have the capital to purchase Saturn.

What is going to happen to product once GM stops producing saturns this summer?

It's going to take at least two years for this new start up to bring product to market.

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Old 04-29-2009, 09:32 AM   #3
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the money is available. they have government approval. they will continue to have the gm cars longer than this year. after closing they will purchase the gm cars to sell at msrp less 39 percent. i would like to think that the new manufacturers vehicles will be selling by next year. 3 tier 1 manufactures trying to get to be saturns.

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Old 04-29-2009, 05:22 PM   #4
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This just came in today:

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...14&newsLang=en

Telesto Ventures: Saving 10,000 American Automotive Jobs
Investor Group Proposes to Save Saturn Retailers

DALLAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Telesto Ventures, an investor group that includes private equity firm Black Oak Partners, LLC, and a number of Saturn retailers, reiterated today its intent to acquire Saturn Distribution Corporation (SDC) in its ongoing effort to save more than 440 US and Canadian Saturn retailers and preserve an iconic American brand. The group put forth its intentions to GM on April 9th.

The goal of Telesto Ventures is three-fold:

save more than 10,000 auto retailer jobs and enhance the original Saturn model for delivering a best-in-class customer experience;
save the American taxpayers and General Motors hundreds of millions of dollars and avoid the significant negative impact to local economies that shuttering Saturn dealerships across the US would create; and,
successfully deliver a model that enables more fuel efficient and greener automobiles to come to market and meet the growing demand in America.
“This as a win-win for everyone involved. It keeps more than 10,000 Americans productively working at a time when it is critical to keep our economy moving. Our plan costs GM and the American taxpayers nothing; and, it alleviates one of the major problems GM is dealing with,” said John S. Pappanastos, a spokesperson for the investment group. “The beauty and early success of Saturn was that it was a model built very differently than anything in the auto industry to date – it put as much weight on the customer experience as on the physical product. We’ve assembled a team that has the experience and track record that can successfully de-couple it from General Motors and operate it as it was originally intended.”

The “new” Saturn Distribution Corporation (nSDC) will leverage Saturn’s brand and focus on product sourcing, quality assurance, distribution, competitive analysis/positioning and national branding. nSDC’s low-asset, lean-distribution model will offer a number of advantages in the current environment, and the Saturn network will provide the ideal platform for creating this model instantaneously.

“These unprecedented times are putting significant financial pressure on the Saturn retailers, and time has become of critical importance to them,” said Pappanastos. “We can appreciate the challenges that GM is facing under dire economic circumstances and very short timeframes. We are positioned to work with them in a very expeditious manner to put in place a mutually agreeable plan that will save critical American jobs through a viable ongoing Saturn.”
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:43 PM   #5
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Sounds like great news!

Next step... the dream...

Buy Spring Hill, convert it back to building small fuel efficent cars and SUV's again we'll be in heaven. Then throw a Homecoming like there never was before! Using the new polymer compounds would be a win-win scenario for the manufacturer and the owners. Imagine a new s-series and VUE with a real hybrid powertrain, they could license it from Toyota or Honda. Why reinvent the wheel... Happy days could be here again...

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Old 04-30-2009, 12:01 AM   #6
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Awesome post Marx404! Thanks for sharing that with us. It's nice to hear some good news. I think it this is done right by the right company, Saturn can beat down those imports!!

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Old 04-30-2009, 12:09 AM   #7
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I think it this is done right by the right company, Saturn can beat down those imports!!
Hopefully by not becoming an import itself (though with Opel it already has to a large degree).

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Old 04-30-2009, 08:33 AM   #8
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Default Re: Telesto reiterates Saturn Interest Today

According to a little net research...Black Oak Partners, LLC (Oklahoma City, OK) is a managment firm with 12 employees and $780,000 in sales.

So... where is all the M O N E Y coming from?

Telesto Ventures did not even exist a month ago....

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Old 04-30-2009, 09:22 AM   #9
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I think you'll find that Telesto Ventures was formed with the sole purpose of buying Saturn..hence the name and timing.

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Old 04-30-2009, 09:33 AM   #10
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Default Re: Telesto reiterates Saturn Interest Today

I posted in another Thread...

Telesto is a moon of Saturn (if you are a stargazer, you already know this.)

Still... I have to take all of this news with a grain of Salt myself. As wolfman mentions...where is the money going to come from and capital.

I found some info on EFG Enterprises.com that was formed by Bob Moore(in coordination with Black Oak and Telesto), of which John Papanastos is associated with.

To me...this all sounds like a Business model. If you look at the EFG website...there is mention of the Saturn deal as well as work with Hyundai to get "More traffic in their stores"...but in essence it is all a Business Model...more of a consulation group or whatnot. At least this is how I am interpreting this whole "Deal".

To me if Saturn DOES survive...it will be nothing more than a name....an empty shell of a company trying to fulfill what made it "Different" many years ago.

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I know next to nothing about Telestro or Black Oak. That said, I've no doubt such company exist and works quite well.

For an example, look no further than Onex (www.onex.com) as a example of private equity and management firm. At its core, Onex has about 35 employees (that was the number several years ago). It pools funds from extremely wealthy investors and uses the funds to buy companies in trouble. It fixes up those companies to make it profitable and use the profits to pay dividends to its investors.

It's as simple as that.

Many companies rescued by Onex are running fine today. I hope Telestro can do the same for Saturn.

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Look at the wonders Cerebus did with Chrysler...

It will be an interesting year if they do obtain ownership of Saturn...

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Look at the wonders Cerebus did with Chrysler...

It will be an interesting year if they do obtain ownership of Saturn...
Yeesh...Chrysler going bankrupt makes me think that if another company picks up Saturn from GM; let's hope that Saturn doesn't end up in Bankruptcy too... that would be a truly sad thing to see happen.

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I don't think any investment firm will buy a company in trouble (eg. Saturn) for the purpose of bankrupting it. That means the money the poured into the company is gone. Who can justify running a business that only loses money (unless you're the government)?

The problem with Chrysler is that none of the people after Iacocca left can get the management and union to work together. The mighty Daimler failed. And Cerebus failed quite spectacularly with the result the union owns Chrysler. I wonder how many billions it had lost through Chrysler??

Telestro must have some pretty tough terms in its offer to buy Saturn from GM. Otherwise, it wouldn't need to put together this song & dance announcement through the press about saving 10,000 American jobs. Negotiations like this typically occur in the backroom somewhere away from the prying eyes of media. But if Telestro is advertising its purchase as saving American jobs through the media to drum up public support, then my guess is GM doesn't like Telestro's terms so Telestro is pressuring GM via politics & public.

And when someone comes along with tough terms, I hope it indicates that they have a solid business plan to make Saturn work instead of turning into another Cerebus.

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Look at the wonders Cerebus did with Chrysler...

It will be an interesting year if they do obtain ownership of Saturn...
I don't think Cerebrus' got much to do with the situation of Chrysler actually, their ownership is too recent and they've made efforts to tackle common criticisms against their cars (they've started the process of changing their car interiors). It's Daimler that is responsible for Chrysler's situation, they took one of the most profitable car companies in 1998 and turned it into what we know now.

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I think I'm going to cry looks like there truly may actually be a happy ending.


Thank's for screwing up GM !!

Looks like SATURN may be better off now then ever before

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This I feel is only the tip of the iceberg.

http://www.saturnfans.com/company/sa...-approval-sale

You don't get approval without a submitted viable plan, period. That given, there is much we do not know yet, but as it all unfolds we will find out.





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Investors or investment companies have only one goal - that is to make money. Saturn is not making money, so what's the point?

Certainly, there are some dreamers out there. Follow the life span of the Avanti - after Studebaker. And the men who purchased this car company until it finally died (the Raymond Lowry version).

But it ain't gonna happen the way Saturn is today.

Unless, like Fiat, the US government 'gives' money to the buyers and requires zero money from the buyers . That's a whole different ball game.

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Investors or investment companies have only one goal - that is to make money. Saturn is not making money, so what's the point?

Certainly, there are some dreamers out there. Follow the life span of the Avanti - after Studebaker. And the men who purchased this car company until it finally died (the Raymond Lowry version).

But it ain't gonna happen the way Saturn is today.

Unless, like Fiat, the US government 'gives' money to the buyers and requires zero money from the buyers . That's a whole different ball game.
BINGO. Reality check. No "investment group" or "equity firm" in their right mind is going to dump millions, in this economy, into a car company with stores closing every week, tanking sales, and no product supplier base in place. They might as well just start buying up GM stock if they are that foolhearty.

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Well, I just returned from the dealership having my lack of air conditioning looked into.

Here's what I learned from one of the salesmen. The owner of the dealership and one of his newest executives are very well-connected to this EFG-Black Oak-Telesto-Saturn Steering Group (whatever it is called) and they pass some information along.

Telesto is 95% certain it will get Saturn.

GM's statement about not building Saturns past '09 may be smoke because of agreements with the union and Saturn.

Telesto seems to be looking to Tata for vehicles. Doesn't have to be Tata, but there is interest there.

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