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Old 04-19-2009, 08:50 PM   #41
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Won't happen. Can't happen. It is un-Constitutional to allow the Government to run a private corporation, and it's against pretty darn near every business law in every State. The Government can force a restructure, sure, but they cannot Constitutionally operate any business.

GM will file Chapter 11 and emerge with Chevrolet, Cadillac and Buick...GMC, Saab and Pontiac will be axed...Saturn and Hummer will be sold to the highest bidder (which incidentally CAN'T be a Chinese company since they don't make a single car that can pass our safety and/or emission standards). Don't listen to the fear.
As long as they have the power of the purse, the government can apply sufficient pressure to GM that you couldn't tell the difference.

Same story when a teenage kid lives off mom & dad ... "my way or the highway" ... kid can do what they want once they reach the age of majority, however, if they want meals and a roof over their heads, don't expect it to be without strings.

"GM, go to your room and do your homework!" seems so very appropriate.

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Old 04-19-2009, 08:55 PM   #42
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My, how time flies. And history is forgotten.

The French cars. They have all been here and left. They didn't make it here.
Nothing like French engineering endeavors ... that Maginot line worked out pretty well for them too.

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Old 04-19-2009, 09:22 PM   #43
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Nothing like French engineering endeavors ... that Maginot line worked out pretty well for them too.
The engineering is sound, poor planning and misguided judgment in commanding higher-ups is what caused that failure.

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The engineering is sound, poor planning and misguided judgment in commanding higher-ups is what caused that failure.
Correct.

The Line was not placed along the Belgian boarder. Well . . . and that's where they went.

But back to cars. I think the point is well taken for any of those who remember history and remember French cars in North America. Somehow, the French just don't get it. Maybe times have changed. But I doubt it. Anyone read the news about automotive related plants located in France currently? The workers are doing all sorts of odd things as layoffs are announced. But beyond that. Who wants to purchase an automobile where all/some/few/one of the workers are less than happy? Certainly this could apply to any automotive plant throughout the world . But somehow . . . the French cars . . . well, let's just say . . . a history.

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Old 04-24-2009, 06:42 PM   #45
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Correct.

The Line was not placed along the Belgian boarder. Well . . . and that's where they went.

But back to cars. I think the point is well taken for any of those who remember history and remember French cars in North America. Somehow, the French just don't get it. Maybe times have changed. But I doubt it. Anyone read the news about automotive related plants located in France currently? The workers are doing all sorts of odd things as layoffs are announced. But beyond that. Who wants to purchase an automobile where all/some/few/one of the workers are less than happy? Certainly this could apply to any automotive plant throughout the world . But somehow . . . the French cars . . . well, let's just say . . . a history.
Not only French cars but all European brands except the luxury ones had problems in the North American market in the past. The biggest one present right now is Volkswagen and even they considered pulling out in the 80s and early 90s. The thing is that European mainstream brands are specialized in small, economic hatchbacks with 4 cylinders or diesel engines. Now tell me, which of these characteristics was sought for in the American market? Yeah, not one of them. The US was the land of the land boat, sorry, full-size sedan with the big V8s, then the land of the massive SUVs with powerful V6s, it was only in times of recession that Americans started looking at economic compacts, and recessions aren't good for sales in general.

Times are changing though and maybe it would start being more common to seek out those sensible vehicles from manufacturers who already have to cater to a public who lives in countries with high densities of population, where gas is pricy and parking spots rare. Whether we want to or not, our situation is converging to the one in place in Europe, cities are growing bigger, gas is getting pricier and parking spots, rarer.

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