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Old 11-03-2002, 11:50 AM   #1
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Default SuperTech 10W-30 Synthetic

The other day stopped by local Wal*Mart and saw this new SuperTech Synthetic. I bought 4 quarts to try and put it in my engine, together with SuperTech filter (2$). Oil was 2.5$/qt. Before I was using 10W-40 Dino by SuperTech. The sound and feeling of the engine has changed enough for me to notice it. The engine spins up faster and with less noise, also less noise on lower RPMs. I will use it for a while and see what kind of mileage I can get, I think it will be better than with 10/40. Also, in local auto zone I saw straight HD60 oil. What kind of cars use that stuff?

Has anybody put 20W-50 synthetic in their Saturns? What kind of experience was that? Thanks.

Also, if SuperTech is made by Warren Oil co why do not they have Synthetic on their website? Thanks.

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Old 11-03-2002, 06:24 PM   #2
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Why are you using 10-40 when 10-30 is specified? The fake synthetic is made by Quakerstate, actually not to bad an oil that contains moly. The supertech filters are good.

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Old 11-03-2002, 06:28 PM   #3
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Yea, actually 5W30 is called for, and 10w30 in warmer(?) climates. And I have used Super*Tech (formerly tech2000) 2 stroke oil in my Jetski for years now, and I have found that when cold, it smokes much more than YamaLube or any ither TCW-3 certified oil, but when warmed up it smokes less, doesn't have noxious fumes, and is cheaper too.
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Old 11-03-2002, 06:30 PM   #4
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O, I have a 93 Saturn that uses a LOT of oil, so I was experimenting if different viscosities would help. What helped were those additives that you can buy for oil consumption and smoke. With them oil is much cleaner due to less blow by. Also, I know 5-30 is specified but I think that is for gas mileage reason mostly. And old engines with 150000 miles are not the same with new ones, I guess.

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Old 11-03-2002, 06:35 PM   #5
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First off, yes you should be using a 5W-30 whether petrol or synthethic. There are only two synthetics, the blends that use petro oil as the carrier (like Quakerstate) and the pure synthetics (like Mobil 1). The pure synthetics do perform better as far as durability in stressful environments. Both perform better than pure petro oil as far as lubricity and high and low temperature performance. They do improve mileage and can improve performance.

There is no automotive engine application for a straight 60 oil. You are getting into hypoid gear oil specs at that weight.

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Old 11-03-2002, 07:11 PM   #6
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Actually I know one guy who uses an aeroplane oil in his car, though he mixes it up with 0-30 I think because it is a bit too thick I was just thinking if oils like 20-50 would help the engine to last longer as they all says perfomance formulated for turbocharged engines etc... I was just wondering if anybody was using them... Or 5-50 synthetic...

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Old 11-03-2002, 07:18 PM   #7
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I read in an earlier post that your car consumes oil at the rate of around 500 mi per quart.

I too would not be buying Mobil1 at it's price for that kind of consumption. And yes the 10w30 synthetic oil you mention IS manufactured by Warren Oil Corp.

Someone here had posted a link to Walmarts MSDS sheets, and yes the 10w30 and 5w30 are made by Warren.

I have used Walmart synthetic in an older car, and it performed well for the price. Synthetic does not necassarily mean it has to be true PAO (Mobil1 and the like), but it is a hydrocracked oil superior to most conventional oils.

And yes a higher viscosity oil will lower oil consumption in higher mileage engines. Due to the baffle design of the Saturn oil pan it's best to use either 5w-30 or 10w-30 as recommended. Heavier viscosities are not recommended, and may impede oil flow due to that design.

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Old 11-03-2002, 08:00 PM   #8
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Regular Super Tech dino oil IS made by Warren Oil Co., but Super Tech Full Synthetic in NOT. The Full synthetic oil is manufactured by Quaker State. Check out this web site if you don't believe me. http://msds.walmartstores.com/
I have used Super Tech full synthetic oil on my 94' SL2 recently, and I switched to Valvoline Max Life oil. With 149,000 miles on the car, the oil consumption went up by about 2/3 when I statred using the synthetic oil. I guess it was able to pass by the rings easier than dino oil. On my next vehicle, I will start using full synthetic early.

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Old 11-03-2002, 08:05 PM   #9
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Mark G - that link says that Super Tech Synthetic 5-30 is distributed by Warren Oils...

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Old 11-03-2002, 08:28 PM   #10
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ym42:

Yes it does. It also says the Super Tech full synthetic 10-30 is made by Quaker State. That's a little wierd isn't it?

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Old 11-03-2002, 08:31 PM   #11
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http://msds.walmartstores.com/msds/t...9/00020911.tif

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Old 11-03-2002, 08:54 PM   #12
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Just in case nobody bothered to read it thoroughly....

The product labeled "SUPER TECH FULL SYNTHETIC SAE 10W30" is from Warren.

The following products are manufactured by QS:
"SUPER TECH FULL SYNTHETIC SAE 10W30 -- SPECIALTY OIL"
"SUPER TECH PERFORMANCE ENGINEERED SYNTHETIC BLEND SAE 10W30 MOTOR"

At every WalMart I've been to I haven't seen any of the "performance" or "specially" engineered synthetics shown above. Only the warren distributed brand.

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Old 03-10-2005, 11:27 PM   #13
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Default Re: SuperTech 10W-30 Synthetic

I am reviving this really old thread! Just got 5qrt jug of SuperTech 10W-30 Full Synthetic for 11.88 from a local Wally. This time I made sure it is packaged by Warren Distribution, Inc., , ( nothing to do with Warren Oil company ). You can find the specs and picture here:
http://www.wd-wpp.com/specsheet/fullsynthetic.pdf

More info on Bobistheoilguy here:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...1;t=005939;p=1

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There is no automotive engine application for a straight 60 oil. You are getting into hypoid gear oil specs at that weight.

There is no AUTOMOTIVE engine application...but HD60 IS NOT necessairly hypoid oil. Harley Davidson spec'd 60w oil for years in their older engines. Remember HD's are AIR cooled and they need the THICK stuff to handle the heat load. The modern HD engines (Evolution & Twin Cam) run on 20w-50. The newer engines are still air cooled, but have MUCH more cooling capacity than the older style engines.

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I run Rotella T 15w/40 01 sl2 69,000 miles

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