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Old 01-30-2009, 12:51 AM   #1
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If you've been on the lookout for a 2009 Saturn Astra, you can stop looking (that is unless you live in Canada, where Saturn is reportedly selling them). Due to the large number of 2008 Astras still in stock - about 5,500 units - Saturn is canceling plans to build a '09 model for the U.S. market.

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Old 01-30-2009, 11:42 AM   #2
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Astra needs a sedan model, more power and better fuel economy. That would sell!!

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Old 01-30-2009, 11:47 AM   #3
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Astra needs a sedan model, more power and better fuel economy. That would sell!!
I don't understand the love of sedans and dislike of hatchbacks. I know it's not everyone but I've had people tell me that. A hatchback is far more versatile and convenient.

I want more power and better fuel economy too. Unfortunately, the addition of one usually subtracts from the other. A 6th gear would benefit the manual though.

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Old 01-30-2009, 12:40 PM   #4
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I don't understand the love of sedans and dislike of hatchbacks. I know it's not everyone but I've had people tell me that. A hatchback is far more versatile and convenient.
My guess is it has nothing to do with practicality and everything to do with what's in style. Why did everyone have to have a behemoth SUV these past 10 years? Cause that's what was "in". For some reason, hatchbacks have never really been "in," in the US anyway. I don't know if it's the history of sedans/spotty history of hatchbacks or if sedans are just perceived as more upscale...

In my eyes, the Astra is one of the better looking cars on the road, but I can see that a lot of people want sedans. I guess they're just sheep. If I was Saturn, I'd want an Astra sedan in the lineup. I bet it would double sales. But I'd still go for the 3dr hatch

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Old 01-30-2009, 12:48 PM   #5
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I looked at the Astras competitors in the US today and I must say, why GM havent made more of an effort is beyond me.

Take a look at the Ford Focus Sedan for example. It comes with optional ABS brakes. Drums. Even a Dacia (GREAT NEWS) comes with ABS (discs) standard here.
The Astra is playing in a whole different league. As such it's poor sales is suprising, maybe Americans just don't appreciate technology that may save their life? Is it all about the cupholders? I am stumped.

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Old 01-30-2009, 12:54 PM   #6
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Don't understand it either. One the execs at work was looking for a small affordable car for his daughter. Suggested the Astra, as of course he had never heard of it. Showed it to his daughter and she basically said "nope, no hatchbacks", so they are now looking at Aveos and Cobalts instead.

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Old 01-30-2009, 01:36 PM   #7
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i think this is the first time ive ever seen a car miss a model year without an all new one coming to replace it. example no 83 corvette because 84 was all new and came out early. no 09 astra but the 10 is the same car with minor changes.

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Old 01-30-2009, 01:39 PM   #8
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I looked at the Astras competitors in the US today and I must say, why GM havent made more of an effort is beyond me.

Take a look at the Ford Focus Sedan for example. It comes with optional ABS brakes. Drums. Even a Dacia (GREAT NEWS) comes with ABS (discs) standard here.
The Astra is playing in a whole different league. As such it's poor sales is suprising, maybe Americans just don't appreciate technology that may save their life? Is it all about the cupholders? I am stumped.
In the U.S. small cars for many manufacturers (namely the big U.S. ones) don't turn much/any profit, so cost-cutting happens. From the consumer standpoint, many don't see a point in spending lots of money for small cars - the whole "economy" image. For example, the original Focus (back when we all got the same one...) didn't offer a lot of equipment the European Focus models did. We didn't get automatic A/C, parking sensors, etc.

The small car market is odd about features. For years Honda only offered ABS on the top level EX Civics, for over $16k, though fortunately they're on a safety push nowadays. Ford offered stability control around 2001-02 on the Focus, packaged with ABS, but at over $1500 it was very expensive for the market, especially when only VWs really had it at the time. On the bright side most every small car does have at least 4-6 airbags standard now.

The Astra really offers a lot of the basic equipment many look for (and in some cases should look for) in a small car I'd say, but since it's standard the base price is higher and many are put off, instead looking for a car with a lower initial price plus the other options.

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Old 01-30-2009, 01:45 PM   #9
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Is it all about the cupholders? I am stumped.
As I am too. You should see the disinterested look I get when I explain ABS or Stabilitrac to most customers, LOL. What finally gets their attention is when I tell them that those features may save them money on insurance, then they suddenly become attentive. wow.

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Old 01-30-2009, 02:32 PM   #10
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Hey, at least Saturn has plans for the future. It's looking better all the time

I was totally impressed when I first drove the car, the handling dynamics were just what I wanted. Most North Americans want don't appreciate the driving experience much, they prefer a cushy ride over controlled rebound dampening. If Saturn could get more people to look at the Astra I think it would be successful, there are still lots of people who value high quality and engineering. Although another cupholder for the girlfreind would be nice...

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Old 01-30-2009, 03:20 PM   #11
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i dont think anyone is saying its not a good car but it isnt a high volume car. they replaced the ion, which sold tons of cars, for a low volume car. the astra is more of an enthusiasts car and the ion was for the masses.

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Old 01-30-2009, 07:24 PM   #13
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HEY FOLKS! Look what I found!!!! A 2009 ASTRA

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I really like the Astra, It's really good looking and handles well. It's amazing to me that only 5500 will suffice the entire US for awhile. I am sure the S series probably sold that many in a week during it's prime, not mention the ION.

Although hatchbacks are really versatile, I don't like the small amount crush space provided for the rear seat passengers in the event of a serious collision with the rear of the car. I know that statistics show that's unlikely, but having the space of a trunk to absorb the impact just makes sense from a safety standpoint. I am thinking of those highway patrol dash cam videos where cars like the Crown Vic are totaled in high speed rear end collisions, but the passenger compartment survives mainly intact.

Another downer about hatchbacks (or SUVs for that matter) is the ability of anything in the trunk space to become a cabin projectile in a crash, rollover or otherwise.

After having a conversation with my friend in the highway patrol, I took the aftermarket DVD system off the headrests and I always put the cargo in the trunk now.

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Don't understand it either. One the execs at work was looking for a small affordable car for his daughter. Suggested the Astra, as of course he had never heard of it. Showed it to his daughter and she basically said "nope, no hatchbacks", so they are now looking at Aveos and Cobalts instead.
Aveo and Cobalt? barf. I sat in a Cobalt and G3 (rebadged Aveo) at the auto show and said "nope". Astra is nicer inside. and hatches are handy! when I first saw a 1991 Saturn SC -- I thought it was a hatch. I consider getting a Acura Integra but was feeling patriotic when I got my 92 SC.

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...And I would like to see hatch Aura ( Vectra )...

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I thought the 2010 Astra was completely redesigned.. This makes it sound like they are adding a iPod jack to the version that is over here now and calling it a 2010 model..

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It sounds like pretty thin gruel for the "2010" changes. Will the one we've seen spy pictures of be the 2011 then?

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Old 01-30-2009, 10:31 PM   #19
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id bet the 09 astra in ohio is a grey market vehicle from canada.

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Old 01-30-2009, 10:39 PM   #20
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actually im wrong. the 2009 astra in ohio was a gm pilot test vehicle. build number is 19. so there is at least 1 09 astra in the us. talk about a very rare car. probably 1 of 1 built.

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