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Old 10-18-2008, 07:22 PM   #1
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Default Check it out - Personal Audio Link (PAL) Installation Schematic

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The accessories person at my Saturn dealership was kind enough to provide me with the installation schematic for the PAL she obtained directly from GM. After some confusion on the part of the sound system installers they use (I think she may have ordered the wrong cable - it had an "network cable" type connection at either end - at the time I purchased my Aura), things seem to be moving in the right direction as I'll be getting it installed within the next week or two. Although the instructions indicate 12 pages, GM apparently only sent her the first 4 as they are the most critical. As you can see at the top of page 1, these are instructions for the "module" and cable installation for the Aura and the Malibu. Please note the last paragraph heading "Getting Started", that the PAL requires a US8 or US9 type radio. It is NOT compatible with the U1C type radio (the Saturn.com site notes the incompatibility of PAL with the U1C radio in a footnote on the Accessories page). This is proof-positive that the PAL is compatible with the Aura radio (I don't know which Aura, if any, comes with a factory installed U1C). Hopefully this will lay to rest any doubt as to whether the GM PAL is a workable option for the Aura. I tried to upload the documents as as PDF but the file was over the allowable size limit. If anyone would like the PDF version, it's 1,095 KB and you can e-mail me privately with your e-mail address. However, you should be able to print the jpeg's just fine. See the links below for each page.

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Old 10-18-2008, 08:34 PM   #2
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very nice man - if you want to how the PDF somewhere and link it here just PM me and i'll hook you up

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Old 10-18-2008, 11:01 PM   #3
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Thanks for this, It's good to know how easy it is to remove the rear package shelf, i think ill be removing that soon to foam the underneath and around the brake light to keep the rattling suppressed from the bass.

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Old 10-19-2008, 01:22 PM   #4
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Awesome! Seems pretty simple, I think I'll tackle this install sometime.. once we can get the part!

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Old 10-21-2008, 10:45 PM   #5
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Default Re: Check it out - Personal Audio Link (PAL) Installation Schematic

I posted htis on another thread:

I got very interested when I saw the post. Both Saturn dealers (Temecula, Irvine) could not locate it even when I provided part number, and told them it may be a Malibu part. In any event, I talked to Crutchfield and am always amazed at their knowledge levels. Anyway, I own a 2008 Aura XE w/upgraded stereo. Here's the link to crutchfield:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-viKy5t7...spx?i=541PXAMG

It's actually more than GM's version, and you have to buy the $19.99 adapter. Take a look.

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Old 10-22-2008, 10:35 AM   #6
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Thanks to all who commented on the my post. I contacted Charlie and he will upload the PDF version for me. I also included some great links to the official GM page for a PDF FAQ and Operating Instructions for the radio controls and functions thereof. Charlie should have this posted soon. Here are the links to the GM pages for those who're interested.

A quick note re; the PAL FAQ below: despite the FAQ stating the PAL is available for the certain vehicles, obviously it is available for the Aura as stated on the installation schematic obtained from GM. Check which iPod is compatible with the PAL.

General PAL FAQ:
http://www.gm.com/vehicles/parts/ipo...FAQs+JAN08.pdf

Personal Audio Link Quick Reference Guide:
http://www.gm.com/vehicles/parts/ipo...uide+NOV07.pdf

I found these to be incredibly insightful. The accessories person at the dealership is off today, otherwise I'd provide you with the part #. If anyone just cannot dig up the PAL through their dealer, I can always provide you with the name and number of my accessories person to see if you can order it through her. She didn't know much about the PAL for the Aura and now she's more in the picture through my digging. She got the install schematic from GM which states it's for the Aura, so that's got to be worth a fair amount.

I hope when I finally have mine installed I get the instructions and all install papers with the PAL for future reference.

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Old 10-22-2008, 11:00 AM   #7
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The '08-'09 Saturn Accessories pamphlet only lists the PAL as an accessory for the Sky... the Part # is 19171028.

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Old 10-22-2008, 12:40 PM   #8
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The '08-'09 Saturn Accessories pamphlet only lists the PAL as an accessory for the Sky... the Part # is 19171028.
The GM part # for the PAL obtained from GM is 19172604. Pls. see my initial post and http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/sho.../size/big/cat/

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Old 10-22-2008, 03:00 PM   #9
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i'm seeing a lot of mention about 08/09... anything known about the feasibility of this on the 07's?

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Old 10-22-2008, 05:18 PM   #10
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pretty cool!

But am I to understand all of this work is done so you can remotely use your Ipod? - just gimme the 1/8" and I'll load up a playlist before I put it in drive

I have always been a creative pmp user anyways hehehe

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Old 10-25-2008, 11:21 AM   #11
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I spoke with my accessories person at the Saturn dealership on Thursday and she said she would has no objection if I pass her contact information along to anyone who'd like to order the PAL module / kit for the Aura / Malibu. She did say that anyone who orders would have to pay their cost + postage to ship. I'd prefer not to post her name and # publicly, but if anyone is interested, I will pass it along if you mail me privately.

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i'm seeing a lot of mention about 08/09... anything known about the feasibility of this on the 07's?
The Get Saturn Parts website told me that it won't work on the '07.. For some reason I have a feeling that they are wrong.. I don't see why it wouldn't work on the '07s!

I say that partially because I am so disappointed.

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Old 10-28-2008, 09:14 PM   #13
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The Get Saturn Parts website told me that it won't work on the '07.. For some reason I have a feeling that they are wrong.. I don't see why it wouldn't work on the '07s!

I say that partially because I am so disappointed.
I'd have to agree with you based on the info I have gathered. If there are any doubts, most any Saturn dealer should be able to identify what type of radio is installed in an Aura (through access to their GM spec sheets). Also keep in mind that the PAL will function with a US8 or US9 radio according to page 1 of the GM installation schematic. It will NOT work with a US1 radio (also footnoted on the "Accessories" page on the saturn.com website. The 2008 Aura XR has a US8 radio. I don't know, however, if the 2007's or, more specifially, the XE trim (any model year?) has a different model radio or if there are different radios installed in Auras with / without XM radio capability. That's an answer I do not have as I only considered the XR without having looked at an XE. My sales people pulled out the GM spec sheet for the 2008 XR and it stated it is equipped with a US8 radio. Definitely something for anyone interested to investigate with their dealer.

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I'm tempted to rip out my stereo and check it out...

I really don't see how it wouldn't work, unless the flash to the BCM isn't compatible.

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