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Old 06-05-2008, 04:06 PM   #1
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Default OE wheel size/lug pattern/fitment

Hey guys.
Wife's tires are pretty much shot.
Doubtful we'll have the car long enough to justify a new set, so I'm digging for a good used set as a stop-gap.
Often folks sell their tires/ wheels together...

What other cars/models have wheels that are a direct swap (fitting lug/hub pattern), and what exactly are these measurements?
(and as an aside, if anybody has a set in NC, drop me a line...)

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Old 06-05-2008, 04:25 PM   #2
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Default Re: OE wheel size/lug pattern/fitment

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...What other cars/models have wheels that are a direct swap (fitting lug/hub pattern),
VW 4 bolt 4X100 for an earlier Jetta is a direct swap

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Old 06-05-2008, 05:11 PM   #3
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Ummm... from what I know most Honda Civic/Accord rims will work (except some older years I think).
I got my rim/tire set off of an Acura Integra, direct swap, no problems.
Check this out
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse...._Reference.cfm
Just find your cars bolt pattern and specs, then match it up with others.

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Old 06-05-2008, 06:39 PM   #4
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Default Re: OE wheel size/lug pattern/fitment

which saturn? they are not all the same...

I don't think many vehicles match the S series

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Old 06-05-2008, 06:52 PM   #5
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which saturn? they are not all the same...

I don't think many vehicles match the S series
actually, quite a few do, including popular models like the Civic.

The key to this is paying attention to the offset. Civic wheels (all that I know of, though I don't know civics terribly well) have the 4x100 pattern, but some have different offsets that cause them not to work (though sometimes they can be made to work with some material removal, but I'm guessing you're not interested in anything but direct-fit).

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Old 06-05-2008, 07:00 PM   #6
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I have a set from a Miata. Had to remove the "hub centric" ring because Miatas apparently have smaller hubs than S-series.

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Old 06-05-2008, 07:09 PM   #7
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I have a set from a Miata. Had to remove the "hub centric" ring because Miatas apparently have smaller hubs than S-series.
interesting....
What do you mean by "remove" the ring? like grind it out?

A guy in the next town over from me has a set on Craiglsist, all it says is "from a miata, will only fit miata".

Mine's an SL2 model. I thought it was 15" rim, but that chart says 14"?
i really don't care about the rim size, if the total rolling diameter is the same (e.g. adjusted tire profile).

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Old 06-09-2008, 01:39 PM   #8
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The integra wheels had a 'ring' aswell in them. If it's the same, should be just a matter of removing them... nothing serious.
It was as simple as pulling them out... although a couple were stuck, but they came out eventually.
A few Civics have the 114.3 spacing, but I think that's just for the hatchbacks. Most of them are 4x100, and since there are so many ricers, it's pretty easy to get a nice pair of 4x100 lug rims. Yet ricers usually go as big as possible, so smaller sizes might be more difficult to get your hands on.

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Old 06-09-2008, 08:42 PM   #9
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interesting....
What do you mean by "remove" the ring? like grind it out?

A guy in the next town over from me has a set on Craiglsist, all it says is "from a miata, will only fit miata".

Mine's an SL2 model. I thought it was 15" rim, but that chart says 14"?
i really don't care about the rim size, if the total rolling diameter is the same (e.g. adjusted tire profile).
Most aftermarket wheels have a recess where a hubcentric ring is pressfit into the hub side of the wheel. They have a variety of rings to fit various sizes of hubs. I believe that S-series hubs are 56mm and appropriate rings should be available from the mfg or decent tire shop. The Miata hubs are obviously smaller. OEM wheels from other cars might be a problem if they were cast to be hubcentric on a smaller hub. I personally would not "grind em out" myself but take them to a machine shop where they can do properly with a lathe. Wheels are a primary safety item and I don't want to worry about a stress fracture from uneven grinding, overheating or other mistakes *I* would make with a dremel or die grinder.

S-series came with either 14" or 15" wheels, steel or alloy. The 14" were standard on the cheap models. The 15" should have been standard on most, if not all, SL2 (SC2, SW2).

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Old 06-09-2008, 08:57 PM   #10
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14" and 15" rims from earlier VW Jetta 4X100 are a direct swap, no mods required. They are hub centric too

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Old 06-09-2008, 09:22 PM   #11
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:41 PM   #12
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Impressive list, forgot to add, ION wheels and Cobalt 4 lug fit SL also.

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