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Old 05-28-2008, 11:24 AM   #1
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Hello from the UK!!

OK. I am getting my SC1's A/C serviced and the AirCon place needs to know how much oil and how much gas the A/C system needs. Especially the oil.

If anyone can help, that would be great.

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Old 05-28-2008, 11:33 AM   #2
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Default Re: How much gas and oil in A/C systems?

from the manual:

The Saturn air conditioning system requires 150 ml (5.07 oz) of PAG compressor oil. Service compressors have 65 ml (2.20 oz) of PAG oil installed.

New oil quantities must be added to the system during component replacement and conditions stated as follows:

With no signs of excessive oil leakage, add:

Compressor: Remove, drain, and measure oil. Drain the replacement compressor. Add the same amount of new PAG compressor oil drained from the removed compressor to the replacement compressor.
Evaporator: Add 67.5 ml (2.25 oz) of new PAG compressor oil.
Condenser: Add 22.5 ml (0.75 oz) of new PAG compressor oil.
Receiver-dehydrator: Add 30 ml (1 oz) of new PAG compressor oil.

Open the R-134a source valve(s) and allow 0.50 kg (1 lb) of liquid R-134a to flow into system through low side service fitting.
As soon as 0.50 kg (1 lb) has been added to system, start the engine, set the mode control to vent, the temperature lever to full cold, the blower speed on high, and push the A/C compressor button to the On position (A/C control button light On). Slowly draw in the remainder of the refrigerant charge 0.23 kg (0.5 lb). The total system charge is 0.68 kg (1.5 lbs).

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Old 05-31-2008, 01:47 AM   #3
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Default Re: How much gas and oil in A/C systems?

From which manual is this?

Also specific PAG oil to I need? The AC Guys I am trying to work with keep on coming up with questions, and doesnt want to do the damn work

If someone knows what kind of PAG oil, that would be great

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Old 05-31-2008, 02:36 AM   #4
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...7/ai_n17188591

http://www.wrenchead.ca/pub/PAG_oils_application-05.pdf

Normally there's a label fixed in the engine compartment listing the refrigerant and oil amount. Sometimes the compressor may have the information on its labeling/ID plate. Googling compressor manufacturers should give you this info as well as the online vehicle a/c sites like http://ackits.com.

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THANKS!!!

And the plate under her hood just tells how much and what type of coolant to use, and no PAG information

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I just evac'd and charged my AC w/ 134a the other day. The pag oil comes in 3 weights at the auto parts store. Each weight listed on the back what brand and model compressors it worked with. I think the medium (100) weight said for Zexel DVC-a series compressors. ~5 oz

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