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Old 05-10-2008, 01:42 PM   #1
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Default GM May Shrink Lambda Crossovers to Make Room for Unibody Chevy Tahoe Replacement

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A story broke this week over at Bloomberg about GM's efforts to squeeze more fuel efficiency out of its highly profitable and popular fullsize truck-based sport-utility lineup. The article noted that its very likely that GM will transition those models from the pickup truck chassis used today to another architecture that features a lighter unibody construction.

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Old 05-10-2008, 03:21 PM   #2
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Default Re: GM May Shrink Lambda Crossovers to Make Room for Unibody Chevy Tahoe Replacement

It's an interesting new dilemma, and not one that's unexpected given the new fuel economy standards. That said, I'd be more inclined to look for the Tahoe/Yukon/etc. being a bit lighter and unibody but also still similarly sized...just kept more focused on towing, etc. than the Lambdas. Maybe not as many features, etc.

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Its interesting to note that while the Outlook is lighter, more fuel efficient, and has smaller exterior dimensions than the Tahoe, the big Saturn is just as spacious on the inside as the Chevy.
Maybe in pure numbers...but for anyone who has real-world compared a Lambda to a Tahoe/Yukon, you know the latter comes off as a cramped and much more compact SUV once inside. Largely because of its big truck frame and solid axle in back, hence no 3rd row room and no space behind that seat either. All of which were solved--greatly so--by the Lambdas.

Right now is still just the very early planning stages of the next gens...so it is going to be interesting what happens with the "classic" full-size SUV's, especially now that they're all dead in the water and so many people have migrated to the idea of large crossovers like the Lambdas that offer so much more in usability and comfort, but are still--though not hugely so--more economical.

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It's an interesting new dilemma, and not one that's unexpected given the new fuel economy standards. That said, I'd be more inclined to look for the Tahoe/Yukon/etc. being a bit lighter and unibody but also still similarly sized...just kept more focused on towing, etc. than the Lambdas. Maybe not as many features, etc.

Then you also have very misleading quotes like this:



Maybe in pure numbers...but for anyone who has real-world compared a Lambda to a Tahoe/Yukon, you know the latter comes off as a cramped and much more compact SUV once inside. Largely because of its big truck frame and solid axle in back, hence no 3rd row room and no space behind that seat either. All of which were solved--greatly so--by the Lambdas.

Right now is still just the very early planning stages of the next gens...so it is going to be interesting what happens with the "classic" full-size SUV's, especially now that they're all dead in the water and so many people have migrated to the idea of large crossovers like the Lambdas that offer so much more in usability and comfort, but are still--though not hugely so--more economical.
Actually the Tahoe/Yukon SUVs are wider than the Lambdas. It's very apparent when looking at the center console and the area between the seats. The only compact area would be the so called third row.

What the original writer is pointing out is that visually the Lambdas appear smaller due to how the upper "greenhouse" has a more angled rise. The Tahoe/Yukon have a more vertical and therefore boxier look which appears to have more room. The Lambdas excel in providing an adult friendly third row without increasing exterior size.

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I see the 2012 Outlook being slightly larger than the current Equinox, and hopefully the 2010 VUE being most space and weight efficient design ever!

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What the original writer is pointing out is that visually the Lambdas appear smaller due to how the upper "greenhouse" has a more angled rise. The Tahoe/Yukon have a more vertical and therefore boxier look which appears to have more room. The Lambdas excel in providing an adult friendly third row without increasing exterior size.
Yep, that's what I was going for. Sorry for the confusion!

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