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Old 04-12-2008, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default Broken shifter bushing

I was driving along in my 1997 SL when the shifter went limp. I couldn't shift gears so I had to have it towed home.

Took the center console off and discovered the shift lever had detached from the shift cable. I slipped it back in & secured it with duct tape so I could drive to the auto parts store. I bought a new shifter bushing (about $20) at NAPA and was good to go!

I have about 143000 miles on my car...it might not be bad idea for you to replace this part before it breaks down.

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Old 04-12-2008, 02:19 PM   #2
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you wouldn't happen to have that part # of the shifter bushing still, would ya? i found the bushing on rockauto.com but haven't seen it in any auto parts stores... it would be good to know it.

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Old 04-12-2008, 02:26 PM   #3
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You can buy one off of Ebay for $19.99 (Delron Plastic), or $29.99 (Stainless Steel). Look up Saturn Shifter Bushing. The replacement part was developed by a guy from the Saturnfans website. If you buy it from him he ships it to you from Texas,usually 1-2 days by Fed-Ex. Step by Step instructions are shipped and it's a pretty good replacement. I replaced this in my 94SL2 last October after I bought it. Works as a pretty good replacement.

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Old 04-12-2008, 05:44 PM   #4
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Saturn will be happy to sell you that bushing. You just have to buy it attached to a set of $200 cables. www.odometergears.com sells one as well as www.rockauto.com. Or you can go to the Help! section of your nearest parts store and look for Toyota wiper bushings. They are white and come in a pack of 5 for $10. Put the bushing in the ring on the end of the cable and put the assembly on the ball with a C-clamp. I don't really care for the stainless steel solution on ebay. That modifies your shifter permanently.

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Old 04-12-2008, 10:18 PM   #5
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Saturn will be happy to sell you that bushing. You just have to buy it attached to a set of $200 cables. www.odometergears.com sells one as well as www.rockauto.com. Or you can go to the Help! section of your nearest parts store and look for Toyota wiper bushings. They are white and come in a pack of 5 for $10. Put the bushing in the ring on the end of the cable and put the assembly on the ball with a C-clamp. I don't really care for the stainless steel solution on ebay. That modifies your shifter permanently.
The stainless steel replacement has worked great in my 94SL2. Car shifts smooth...but your results may vary.

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Old 04-12-2008, 10:25 PM   #6
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Does anyone know the part # for the motormite bushing?

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Old 04-13-2008, 06:15 AM   #7
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The stainless steel replacement has worked great in my 94SL2. Car shifts smooth...but your results may vary.
I didn't mean to imply it didn't work. However, it does require you to epoxy the stainless steel piece to the shifter. Which means you won't be able to put another set of cables on there unless you cut off the bushing. Also, it's not enough to be conclusive but, there have been a couple posts that lead me to believe that possibly over time, that solution can cause the end of the cable to come off. When there are other solutions out there that don't have those drawbacks, I tend to shy away from that one.

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Does anyone know the part # for the motormite bushing?
motormite #49448 windshield wiper bushing.

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i just drill out the metal knob on the shifter that the bushing fits onto, run a bolt through the resulting hole, put a metal sleeve over the bolt, run the "eye" on the shifter cable over the sleeve, put a washer on the end and put a nut on the end and now it's fixed forever. done this on 3 saturns now, works great and costs like $2.50 in hardware from lowes/home depot

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Old 04-13-2008, 03:00 PM   #9
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Part Number is BK 6201411.

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Old 04-13-2008, 03:36 PM   #10
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Part Number is BK 6201411.
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I didn't mean to imply it didn't work. However, it does require you to epoxy the stainless steel piece to the shifter. Which means you won't be able to put another set of cables on there unless you cut off the bushing. Also, it's not enough to be conclusive but, there have been a couple posts that lead me to believe that possibly over time, that solution can cause the end of the cable to come off. When there are other solutions out there that don't have those drawbacks, I tend to shy away from that one.


motormite #49448 windshield wiper bushing.
I am only bumping this because in a google search for 'saturn shifter bushing' this thread comes up.

This is not true at all. There is a E clip that you can pop off and take the cable right off. The reason the loops end up breaking is due to they are the next weakest link. If you keep replacing bushings long enough they will fail regardless.

I had to do this repair tonight on my wife's 2000 SL2. She called me at work and before she even got half way through "my transmission lever came loose and..." I knew exactly what to do.

I had repaired this on my 96 SC2 by using one of my Razo shifter knob bushings and a ball end bit on my dremel just slightly smaller than the shifter's ball end. The solution was exactly what the stock bushing was only in a more durable plastic.

Tonight I didn't have the luxury of NAPA or the metal one...I'd have ideally liked to of drilled straight through the ball end and made an insert. I didn't have a drill press and 3/4 through the drill bit binded when the shifter end flexed a bit and snapped. I tried drilling through the bit but it was cobalt and was just burning up my next bit attempts.

So I drilled out the backside of the ball end and popped it out (I didn't measure it but I think it's about 1/4" center diameter). I then used a hole saw to cut a wooden bushing out of maple and put a pan head screw from the back through. On the 'loop' side of the bushing I used a fender washer and a stop nut (nylon insert). Even if the wood fails it's contained within the loop and washer sandwich. If it disintegrates totally the steel screw and washers should guarantee she can at least massage it into gears if needed. I plan to get a piece of nylon (maybe a sewing spool) to replace the wood regardless.

It shifts smooth and my wife and I didn't have to lose a sick or holiday day to fix this.

I may still pull another shifter assembly from the salvage yard and pick up the NAPA end or order the metal insert one.

Just a heads up for those that will end up in this boat.

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Does anyone know the part # for the motormite bushing?

Here's a photo. They are cheap and work well. I have one of the ones that
2NDSOUT mentions (the Ebay plastic one) but have never installed in since these "band aids" have works so well.
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Old 01-29-2009, 08:51 PM   #13
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I just wanted to add that the recent replacement of my shifter cables in my 94 SL2 had nothing to do with the stainless steel bushing that I installed in Oct. 2007.

After my Saturn mechanic changed out the shifter cables that were on the car, he mentioned to me that they weren't OEM, and were in the car very ackward, but he got a brand new OEM set installed in there for me with no issues.

While the shifter cables going out also exhibit a floppy shifter...I noted that the JEGS website has shifter cables as well, in various lengths that look to be metal cables.

Has anyone had success with Metal Shift cables installed in a Saturn at all? Would they fit? I think they are made by B & M.

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this site is just fabulous-
just had shifter bushing issue with my 99 SC2- came out of store tried reverse and nothing. -shifter moves all around- got it into 3rd & limped home-
1st call was to dealer for advice- $900 for new cables installed- just friggen nuts, as was the price of cables $250 -
got on this site and read thru posts- took center counsel off and there's the same bushing issue .- called NAPA -going to get part now. Thanks to all for the info, part #s and advice- don't know how we survived before the internet-

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Here's my similar problem and solution

Nov. 2004 my boss and I were riding im my 1997 SC2 and the shifter went limp. Trannie was in 2nd gear and got me over to the shoulder. I went to the trunk, grabbed and #2 phillips, took a few screws outta my center console. poped out my power window switches and ciggarette lighter electrical connectors and proceded to observed the shifter linkage disconnected from shifter cable bushing

So I grabbed a zip-tie (AKA tie downs, ratchets strap, etc) and got it to work and got home.

The zip tie slipped off getting into 1st gear a day or two later and I configured three zip ties to keep the shifter cable on the shifter linkage and the zip ties from slipping off each other.

I went to the local dealer for a busing, like DJ BOOZE said they would sell me the bushing........ attached to $135 cables..... No Thanks. the dealer parts guys says it's inevitable and so many people have tried to substitute, or make or machine and bushing replacement to have a alternative to shifter cables getting changed, he said they never work. BULLS*HIT.


Jan 2009 The 3 zip ties finnaly broke, It's back togeter again with three new zip ties, I drive my car hard, 60 to 100 miles aday, I commute 28mi each was to work and shift hard and quick. I think that it's incredible that my car was shifting for 5 years with zip ties

I am glad that my friends here on SATURNFANS know of the correct busings that can be replaced rather than changing the entire cables.

On a side note I have be driving SPS (saturn performance specialists) Short Throw shifter for about 7 years and its great.

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Here's a photo. They are cheap and work well. I have one of the ones that
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^^^ +1 for these replacement bushings. Getting the suckers on was an ordeal for me, but it has been working well for three months.

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Jan 2009 The 3 zip ties finnaly broke, It's back togeter again with three new zip ties, I drive my car hard, 60 to 100 miles aday, I commute 28mi each was to work and shift hard and quick. I think that it's incredible that my car was shifting for 5 years with zip ties
I did the zip tie trick myself, but only so I could get home and install a replacement bushing. I wouldn't recommend running on the zip ties for any length of time. A proper bushing should last longer and put less stress on the shifter cable end.

If you search the forums, there's one story about a guy with a used Saturn whose shifter when loose, and when he opened it up to fix it, found that a shoelace was the only thing holding the shifter to the cable. Who knows how long that car had been driving on that shoelace?

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I plan on replacing the bushing just so I know what's in there and don't have to worry about being stranded somewhere. Every once in a while I drive down some pretty isolated rural areas, in the wee hours of the morning.

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I,m on my second help section bushing (plastic POS)

Thanks 4 the vid

I,ve driven it without by reaching under and shifting using the eyelet 1st and 2nd suck but 3rd and 4th aint too bad

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It's fun shifting just with the eyelets . When I was experimenting my fix to the broken shifter cable, I anticipated that the cable got detached so I removed all the console screws. When it did happen, it took me less than 10 seconds to remove the console, put on a glove, and reach down to shift with the eyelet. lol. Sometimes, the traffic here in California is horrible so you get to act fast.

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