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Old 03-10-2008, 01:35 AM   #1
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Default The security system is keeping my 2001 Saturn from starting

I have an S series 2001 3door. Recently the battery cable came unplugged, and when it was plugged back on, the security system has come on and won't shut off. It blinks a few times but won't shut off quickly. The manual says to wait 10 minutes then start it but it doesn't work. The engine turns once then shuts off. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?

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Old 03-10-2008, 01:48 AM   #2
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Normally there's a procedure similar to what you experienced and your owner's manual should cover this eventuality. As an alternate method you can remove the negative cable for a minute and then attach it again, keeping the remote nearby to shutoff the alarm/reset the system. Sometimes the first re-attachment of the battery cable confuses the body control module (BCM), it controls the Saturn security system and usually resets automatically but occasionally needs a little help like removing the battery cable again before attaching it a second time. Electronics isn't 100% without some errors and this may be just a one time event and not worth worrying about if you're successful. If this doesn't work and you've found your owner's manual to review the reset procedures, there's similar information in the How-to Tips library that you'll have to wade through or else it may require a tow to Saturn. Hopefully you'll have avoided this by getting the system reset properly.

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Old 03-10-2008, 02:27 AM   #3
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Thank you, I'll try that in the morning.

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Old 03-10-2008, 08:38 AM   #4
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I have been installing alarms for about 7 years nows. one thing i might try is every alarm has a master fuse in it if you can find it, it should be somewhere underneath the dash driverside. It should be a red fuse. The reason why your car starts and then dies sounds to me that it has a kill switch in it. Also i know that the new models of saturns have a chip in the key i believe. The best thing i could tell you is have saturn look at it or take it to a alarm shop and have them figure it out. Hopefully that was some of help.

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Old 03-10-2008, 04:46 PM   #5
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I have been installing alarms for about 7 years nows. one thing i might try is every alarm has a master fuse in it if you can find it, it should be somewhere underneath the dash driverside. It should be a red fuse. The reason why your car starts and then dies sounds to me that it has a kill switch in it. Also i know that the new models of saturns have a chip in the key i believe. The best thing i could tell you is have saturn look at it or take it to a alarm shop and have them figure it out. Hopefully that was some of help.
I changed the battery today, still nothing. I had a mechanic look under the dash for a red fuse, but he couldn't find it. There seems to be more fuses on the center console on the passenger side, could it be there? Also none of my sets of keys seem to have chips in them. Any other suggestions?

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Old 03-10-2008, 05:21 PM   #6
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Quick note, the mechanic's scan tool gave an error code about the BTSI. I'm reading somethreads on it, but can someone give me some details about it? Should I try disassembling it?

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Old 03-10-2008, 05:22 PM   #7
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Did you leave the key in the 'on' position for the 10 minutes before you tried starting it. I'm not sure if Saturn ever used the Passlock system like in other GM vehicles of that time, but I remember reading somewhere with that system, you leave the key in the on position until the security light goes off, then back off and it should start.
Something like this comes to mind, might give it a read and see if it seems like any of it could apply.

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Old 03-10-2008, 05:37 PM   #8
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Did you leave the key in the 'on' position for the 10 minutes before you tried starting it. I'm not sure if Saturn ever used the Passlock system like in other GM vehicles of that time, but I remember reading somewhere with that system, you leave the key in the on position until the security light goes off, then back off and it should start.
Something like this comes to mind, might give it a read and see if it seems like any of it could apply.
Yes we've tried leaving the key in, the light eventually goes off, and then I turn it off and try starting it, no luck. The security light always blinks a few times then stays on. I looked at that thread, I'm not sure if the starter is dead, it does turn once, sounding like it's going to start. And it always turns at least once, every time I turn the key in it.

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Old 03-10-2008, 06:07 PM   #9
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Also it's not a random thing, it hasn't started at all since last Friday, even after many tries. Always the same thing with the security light.

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Old 08-02-2012, 08:09 AM   #10
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Default Re: The security system is keeping my 2001 Saturn from starting

I'm having the same problem now.
I am not sure if you have since fixed this problem.
I have a 2002 SL Series.

When i try to start my car if the security light is blinking it will not start (kill switch)
if i wait between 20-40 mins it will stay solid and start fine.

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Old 08-02-2012, 08:40 AM   #11
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I doubt the OP will reply on a 4yr old thread.

What you have is the 10-minute 'sit in the corner' tamper mode, delaying a start until waiting 10-minutes until the security indicator stops flashing before cycling the ignition switch off for a restart. Theoretically, Passlock sensors in the ignition switch housing last forever and there doesn't seem to be any history here about wear and tear causing issues as our cars age.

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Old 03-12-2013, 07:33 PM   #12
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Resetting the passlock system on your car is fairly straightforward. The whole process takes 30 minutes. If you make a mistake during the process, you will have to start over.
1. Turn ignition switch to run position.
2. Momentarily turn key to start position. Do not start vehicle.
3. Wait 10 minutes.
4. When security light changes from flashing to off, or from on to off, turn ignition switch to off position.
5. Perform this process 3 times.(starting with step one)After third time, vehicle should start on next ignition cycle.

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Old 04-03-2013, 08:37 AM   #13
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i have been struggling with trying to reset security so that i can start car, replaced ignition, when repeating the 3x cycle, do you have to try and turn motor, step 2 every cycle? any info would be much appreciated

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Old 04-03-2013, 10:14 AM   #14
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Yes. Follow post #12 as described but wait a little longer, say 11 minutes before cycling the ignition switch OFF for another ON cycle of 11 minutes. The end of the 3rd cycle (turning ignition OFF) should allow starting/running on the next try.

Just to be sure, your car is from model year 2000+? Passlock is only for 3rd generation S-series using remote keyless entry.

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Old 04-03-2013, 10:42 AM   #15
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yes, i forgot to put that info into thread, it's a 2001 saturn L200 sedan, i had to replace ignition and ignition housing, and am having no luck resetting, my understanding from son is his key fob will not lock/unlock car either

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Newbie mistake posting your L-series car in the S-series forum. While Passlock is the same across all models and acts differently in one (Ion), its better to repost in the L-series tech forums. Modify your personal profile so car model appears under your name. Add relative info in the post like mileage and all maintenance done to date to give anyone reading, a picture perspective. And the problems you're having.

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