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Old 12-17-2007, 06:53 PM   #1
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Roll Eyes 100K Time Belt Change

Question, I'm planning on having the 100K Time Belt Change, Plugs and water pump maintainence done in the Spring on my 2003 V6 AWD Vue. Has anyone gone longer than 100K? Would it be benefical to do it sooner? ( I have 85K on the Vue now). What should I expect in repair costs for the above repair? The Vue is running real well now, I hate to disrupt anything at this point. I've been averaging about 22-24MPG with Royal Purple. And Oil changes every 6000 miles. Thanks for any feedback.

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Old 12-17-2007, 09:22 PM   #2
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Default Re: 100K Time Belt Change

Do the 4cyl models need this maintenance as well?
(if so, I think I'm waaaaaay over that, heh)

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Old 12-18-2007, 04:23 AM   #3
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Default Re: 100K Time Belt Change

The 4 cylinders have a timing chain. They don't need this.
I've seen estimates of $1,000, but then saw a cost of $350 for doing the timing belt - quite a difference. I guess I don't know who to suggest to do this job. You KNOW a dealer will soak you and even some local garages will hit you hard. I guess this is an instance where many phone calls are in order. Ideally, you'd like to hit up a young kid at a Saturn or Honda dealership and pay him under the table to do it for you on a weekend. There are a couple of special tools to keep the various components in time, but I would think it can be done by being extra careful. There was a guy who posted here a while ago who was renting out the special tools needed. I think this is a topic that a lot of people are interested in. I hope we get some good feedback.

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Old 12-18-2007, 05:22 AM   #4
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Ideally, you'd like to hit up a young kid at a Saturn or Honda dealership and pay him under the table to do it for you on a weekend.

I can't see how you'd call that 'ideal'. if I had the honda motor (and this is why I DON'T) I would only want a reputable shop working on it. I don't want a 'kid' doing this on his own time, cutting corners 'cause he thinks he 'knows what he's doing'.
call around, develop a good relationship w/ a local shop, you'll feel better.

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Old 12-18-2007, 09:07 AM   #5
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Default Re: 100K Time Belt Change

It's a 2003 so it's not a Honda. Honda were in 2004-07.
Both the GM 3.0 and the Honda 3.5 do have belt drive cams.

For the 3.0 the belt price looks like 30-40 bucks for a name brand from various internet sources so the rest is labor. A tensioner is another 50 bucks and probably worth changing if you're in there.

Not sure how difficult the 3.0 is to do, the Honda doesn't look too difficult. Mine won't hit 100,000 mi for 3 or 4 more years. Maybe I'll change the belt and rebuild the transmission at the same time.......

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Old 12-18-2007, 10:15 AM   #6
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It's a 2003 so it's not a Honda. Honda were in 2004-07.
Both the GM 3.0 and the Honda 3.5 do have belt drive cams.

For the 3.0 the belt price looks like 30-40 bucks for a name brand from various internet sources so the rest is labor. A tensioner is another 50 bucks and probably worth changing if you're in there.

Not sure how difficult the 3.0 is to do, the Honda doesn't look too difficult. Mine won't hit 100,000 mi for 3 or 4 more years. Maybe I'll change the belt and rebuild the transmission at the same time.......
good point, I didn't catch the year in the 1st post, thanks
probably all the more reason to get the dealer to do that one. the GM 3.0 is an oddball engine, not too many people familiar w/ it.

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Old 12-18-2007, 10:45 AM   #7
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Default 100K Time Belt Change for me too!

I too am looking at a 100K service for my 2003 V6 VUE. The engine is a L-81 and I believe has been used in SAAB and other euro vehicles.

Here's my question. Is there anything strange about the 100K service (other than parts) a good shop that deals in euro cars could not do?

I know I would be having the belt, waterpump, plugs, etc. changed.

How about the valve cover gaskets?

Any experience here would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 12-19-2007, 04:23 AM   #8
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I can't see how you'd call that 'ideal'. if I had the honda motor (and this is why I DON'T) I would only want a reputable shop working on it. I don't want a 'kid' doing this on his own time, cutting corners 'cause he thinks he 'knows what he's doing'.
call around, develop a good relationship w/ a local shop, you'll feel better.
1. You would assume that the Saturn dealership did not hire an incompetent mechanic, regardless of age.
2. You would assume a young guy would need a little extra cash.
3. The young mechanic, who is just as competent outside of the dealership as he is inside the dealership, would not have overhead to pay for.
4. Even if a new belt were $100, all the rest they're hitting you for is labor. It certainly doesn't take 9 or 10 hours to change the belt. If you can save 1/2 the labor cost, you're doing quite well.

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1. You would assume that the Saturn dealership did not hire an incompetent mechanic, regardless of age.
2. You would assume a young guy would need a little extra cash.
3. The young mechanic, who is just as competent outside of the dealership as he is inside the dealership, would not have overhead to pay for.
4. Even if a new belt were $100, all the rest they're hitting you for is labor. It certainly doesn't take 9 or 10 hours to change the belt. If you can save 1/2 the labor cost, you're doing quite well.
I didn't mention dealership, did I? I said 'reputable shop'. there is also a difference between 'young mechanic' and 'some kid'.
I don't really care who you have work on your car, but I'm not going to hire 'some kid' to work on mine.

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Old 12-20-2007, 04:56 AM   #10
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I didn't mention dealership, did I? I said 'reputable shop'. there is also a difference between 'young mechanic' and 'some kid'.
I don't really care who you have work on your car, but I'm not going to hire 'some kid' to work on mine.
I trust my local guy, but even he has overhead and may not necessarily have access to any "special" tools required to do this change out(he also charges by a rate book like most do). Of course I'd price it out at several places. I'm just not willing to pay upwards of the $1,000 quoted in this forum to get this done. Ah, the good old days when the damned engine wasn't sitting sideways with the front up against the strut tower!!

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