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Old 12-18-2007, 06:56 PM   #21
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Default Re: Fujita dual filter cold air intake

I'd like to see a dyno on a Sky regardless....

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Old 12-19-2007, 02:25 AM   #22
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Before you wast your money you will have to figure out how to set it up so you have 70mph air blasting into your ports. Otherwise it will, like you stated, be hard to prove it is doing anything effective. It would be nice to have free time like I did so you could post what gains each add on gave. In my case I was disappointed most of the time. The only thing that really seemed to help were tunes, turbos, nitrous, and super chargers. Everything else did little compared to how much everything cost. A super charger on a NA vehicle is actually the cheaper rout to go after it is all said and done. (It just is expensive up front.) Not to mention the temp, air pressure, ect all have a factor. You can get two different results a week apart.

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Old 12-19-2007, 07:20 AM   #23
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I understand that on a small engine like the 2.4 Ecotec, "major" gains in hp and torque by adding a CAI and exhaust are illusory at best. I agree that forced induction, be it via turbo or supercharger, will give the best gains.

However, what's the breakeven point when it comes to which gives the best bang for the buck? There's a supercharger kit for the Sky 2.4 that will cost close to $4K for the kit and labor to install it, and will give roughly 40 more hp than stock. This works out to $100 per hp. How much more is the MSRP on a Redline than a stock Sky? Is it $4K more? Doesn't the Redline put out almost 100hp more than a stock Sky? And while we're talking about bang for the buck, I've heard there's a kit to put a V8 in a Sky. What's that kit cost, including the engine and everthing else needed for the swap, what's the hp and torque increase, and what's the $ per hp on that option?

If you can see my line of thinking here, and boil things down to $ per hp, that would be a good gauge as to which improvements are worth the investment. I figure I have about $320 into my modded Fujita CAI, so if I got about 4-5 hp out of it, I'm satisfied. Only way to know for sure is to try and get some dyno numbers. But again, without the benefits of "ram air", it probably won't give the true numbers.

But hey, at least when the hood is popped, there's something different people will see under there. And it's somewhat functional, just don't know how much...

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Old 12-19-2007, 02:36 PM   #24
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Good Tune: 300 to 400 dollars + HP gain of 7 to 17.
APEX Exhaust system by it self: 1000 to 1500 dollars for a HP gain of 0
Good CAI: 100 to 270 dollars for a HP loss of -5 to positive 7.
Fart can muffler: 50 to 200 dollars for a gain of 0 (and minus class points from me)
All Synthetic fluids and so called performance plugs: 200 to 300 dollars for a HP gain of 0

This all adds up. Save your money and get a turbo or super charger kit.

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Old 07-02-2008, 06:11 PM   #25
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The stock factory Sky intake is a better cold air intake than the aftermarket pieces and makes more horsepower than the aftermarket stuff. There are other Sky forums that prove this on the dyno. The same thing has been echoed here about CAIs by those few of us who know snake oil when we see it.

If you like the way it looks, then buy it because of that alone without any regard to the performance issue. You can justify is on looks, but not on performance.
100% agree. We tested several hot air intakes and they do nothing for performance. Most of them show significant hp losses on the dyno.

Those intakes are NOT cold air intakes. Here is a picture of my intake which only sucks in cold air.


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