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Old 06-11-2007, 08:15 PM   #1
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Default Manual Trans Quil Oil Seal

Anyone have a part number or know a place I could get one?

Advance, autozone and Rock auto dont have it...

I want to replace it as I believe its the source of my leak, but I have yet to pull the trans out.

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Old 06-11-2007, 09:40 PM   #2
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I don't have the part number handy but, you do realize that the transmission has to be dismantled and that seal has to be pressed in right?

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Old 06-11-2007, 10:18 PM   #3
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Default Re: Manual Trans Quil Oil Seal

Yeah, honestly, without the right parts, you can crack your case half..... that might be something to pay someone to do..... I have seen some that came in cracked in half that tried it themselves....

Like he said, the trans has to b opened up and split in half to get to it. If you do disassemble it, make sure to put the bath tray back in.

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Old 06-12-2007, 05:42 PM   #4
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Default Re: Manual Trans Quil Oil Seal

I put the motor in about a month or so ago.

I had the trans apart and I cracked the case, had it repaired.

I have no issue with doing the work. It has to be done and Im surely not paying someone to do it for me when I can do it myself.

As far as press, I got a hydraulic press and a 2 ton arbor at the shop I work at. Both at my dispose.

Its going to be a lot of work I know. I wanted to replace it before installing but Advance/Autozone and the likes didnt have the seal and my Uncle said dont bother with it. Man oh man I wish I would have now... Next time I know better!

If you come across that part number let me know

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Old 06-12-2007, 09:34 PM   #5
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Default Re: Manual Trans Quil Oil Seal

Saturn P/N 21120405

I bought one for my trans... then my trans went kablooey cuz i left a tool where it shouldn't have been. No, not in the trans but it was on the clutch. Oops.

Its about $20 from the dealership. It looks like a long tube with a bearing on the end and an 0-ring type seal in the center.

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Old 06-16-2007, 09:46 AM   #6
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Default Re: Manual Trans Quil Oil Seal

Thanks for the info. I purchased the input shaft seal with that part number.

While there I spoke to a mechanic and told him about my trans and how its been broke/welded up. He suggested I get a new housing. So I did, he had one there he sold to me personally for $20.

SO now I got a new housing thats never been broke, all new rotating seals.

I dont expect to encounter a issue this time!!!

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Old 06-18-2007, 09:07 AM   #7
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Default Re: Manual Trans Quil Oil Seal

were there any tricks to getting the case halves back together.. i took mine apart to check the diff pin.. and now its about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch apart.. and wont go closer

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Old 04-22-2012, 04:08 PM   #8
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Saturn P/N 21120405

I bought one for my trans... then my trans went kablooey cuz i left a tool where it shouldn't have been. No, not in the trans but it was on the clutch. Oops.

Its about $20 from the dealership. It looks like a long tube with a bearing on the end and an 0-ring type seal in the center.
Hi! Insane question: I had this part replaced 10,000 miles ago at a shop in the clutch is slipping again. I'm worried that this seal is leaking again.

Could I simply stuff another O-ring past the splines and into the tube?

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Old 04-22-2012, 06:14 PM   #9
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Hi! Insane question: I had this part replaced 10,000 miles ago at a shop in the clutch is slipping again. I'm worried that this seal is leaking again.

Could I simply stuff another O-ring past the splines and into the tube?

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Welcome to the Board.

Congratulations on digging up a 5 year old thread.

To answer the question--no.

The quill seal is is a lip seal not an oring so an oring would not work even if you could get it somewhere close to where it may do any good.
Was the clutch replaced when the quill seal was done? Are you getting trans fluid out the bottom of the engine trans joint?

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Old 04-23-2012, 01:04 AM   #10
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Welcome to the Board.

Congratulations on digging up a 5 year old thread.

To answer the question--no.

The quill seal is is a lip seal not an oring so an oring would not work even if you could get it somewhere close to where it may do any good.
Was the clutch replaced when the quill seal was done? Are you getting trans fluid out the bottom of the engine trans joint?
Hi, according to the clutch shop (which has since gone out of business - ominous sign) BOTH the quill bearing/seal and the engine rear main bearing seal were replaced, along with the clutch. They showed me a line item on the bill indicating that the transmission was sent out to a specialist for the quill bearing/seal replacement.

I foolishly did not ask for parts back and am now wondering whether any of the work was done at all!

That was the second clutch replacement within 14,000 miles after more than 90,000 miles of trouble-free driving.

90,000 mostly freeway miles - clutch slipped
new clutch - "seals look fine" says the shop
101,000 miles clutch slips - parts replaced under warranty - "clutch soaked in -oil-" says the shop - "need to replace transmission seal" and they claimed they did. New clutch too, and I said "better replace the main bearing seal while you are in there" and they claim they did.
123,000 miles clutch slips again... and here I am.

Car is up on ramps at the moment and I poked around with a Q-tip in the inspection port. There were drops of engine oil at the bottom of the bell housing (no trace of pink, no odor (I use Mobile 1)) and the swabs I poked deeply into the clutch guts came back black and greasy-looking. Swabs on flywheel teeth came back dry.

Transmission fluid is 3/4 full.

I'm thinking of pulling the starter to get a finger on the engine side of the flywheel (based on all the incredible tips and information in these forums) before I resort to more drastic measures.

I also checked the little well by the EGR valve and it was dry, and I wiped the back of the valve cover with a paper towel and it came back dirty but dry.

The passenger-side axle seal seems to be leaking. It looks a little messy in that area and there are tinges of pink in the goo. I don't think that's related to clutch slippage - the bigger problem.

The clutch only slips in 5th under heavy acceleration - so far

1998 SW2 DOHC stock everything. Car is in great shape and gets 40+MPG at 55 MPH - a keeper if I can solve this.

David

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