SaturnFans.com
what's new (beta) - classifieds - forums - photos


Go Back   SaturnFans.com Forums > Models > Saturn S-Series > S-Series Tech
Register FAQ Members List Groups Calendar Chat Room Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-12-2011, 12:10 AM   #1
tgferg67global
Member
tgferg67global will become famous soon enoughtgferg67global will become famous soon enough
 
tgferg67global's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 249
 
Default Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

I saw this method used by others so I thought I would try it. No leaks yet.

Clean the area.
Cut a donor strip from the tank.
Melt a valley along the crack with the tip of the soldering iron.
Melt the donor material into the crack.




Last edited by tgferg67global; 04-12-2011 at 12:21 AM..

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to tgferg67global's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help tgferg67global reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
tgferg67global is offline   Reply With Quote
SaturnFans.com Sponsored Links
Old 04-12-2011, 12:42 AM   #2
t&m
Member
t&m is on a distinguished road
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 111

2002 SL2
2002 SL2
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

Interesting idea, thanks for the writeup. Let us know how it holds up.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to t&m's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help t&m reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
t&m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 09:43 AM   #3
2NDSOUT
Master Member
2NDSOUT is just really nice2NDSOUT is just really nice2NDSOUT is just really nice2NDSOUT is just really nice2NDSOUT is just really nice
 
2NDSOUT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 7,318
 

1994 SL2
1999 SL
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

What "others" have you seen doing this?

I've been an owner now since 1997 and I have never seen this method used at all...

in 99% of most cases- replacing the radiator is the best fix for this; but if you have fixed it and it holds up, this would be an unorthodox way to keep the radiator going in the car.

...
Bryan

94SL2 HCE, "Pearl"

99 SL

94SL2 260K Miles
1/15

97SW2 266K Miles
2/15

Always
94SC1 340,501 Miles
Org. Engine/Auto Trans
2/97-10/08
Gone 3/12

92SL1
05VUE
91SC

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to 2NDSOUT's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help 2NDSOUT reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
2NDSOUT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 09:56 AM   #4
alordofchaos
Super Member
alordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud ofalordofchaos has much to be proud of
 
alordofchaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Central MI
Posts: 12,845
 

2002 SC2
1998 SL2
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

Very interesting. I've never seen it before, either, though I think about it every time I go the Harbor Freight and see this "plastic welding" tool they have.

Someone researched the type of plastic used in the end caps and used a particular epoxy designed for that type of plastic

Someone else (hein?) uses a piece of lexan and regular epoxy and puts a patch over that area

If I ever have such a crack, I may use all the methods - melt it shut and coat it with that special epoxy, then slap a plastic patch onto it.

...
I'm not worthy to grovel in the shadow of Signmaster's wisdom

11/2016 red 2002 5 spd SC2 151k DD
7/2010 Craigslist white 1997 SC2 project
12/2008 eBay silver 1998 SL2 5 spd 102k, now 201k+ miles

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to alordofchaos's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help alordofchaos reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
alordofchaos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 10:01 AM   #5
tgferg67global
Member
tgferg67global will become famous soon enoughtgferg67global will become famous soon enough
 
tgferg67global's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 249
 
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2NDSOUT View Post
What "others" have you seen doing this?

I've been an owner now since 1997 and I have never seen this method used at all...

in 99% of most cases- replacing the radiator is the best fix for this; but if you have fixed it and it holds up, this would be an unorthodox way to keep the radiator going in the car.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4822270_repa...radiators.html

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to tgferg67global's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help tgferg67global reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
tgferg67global is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 10:26 AM   #6
sousa632
Member
sousa632 is on a distinguished road
 
sousa632's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Forked River, NJ
Posts: 95

1995 SW2
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

When my radiator burst, I did the correct repair...... I replaced it. That I would imagine would only be a temporary 'fix' till you have the money to replace it. The plastic is weakened in that area and it's all in due time that it will fail again with the temperature fluctuation and (slight)pressure. I'd like to be proved wrong though.

...
John
96 Tbird 4.6L, 95 Saturn SW2

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to sousa632's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help sousa632 reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
sousa632 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 10:33 AM   #7
tgferg67global
Member
tgferg67global will become famous soon enoughtgferg67global will become famous soon enough
 
tgferg67global's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 249
 
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

Quote:
Originally Posted by sousa632 View Post
When my radiator burst, I did the correct repair...... I replaced it. That I would imagine would only be a temporary 'fix' till you have the money to replace it. The plastic is weakened in that area and it's all in due time that it will fail again with the temperature fluctuation and (slight)pressure. I'd like to be proved wrong though.
Maybe it will, maybe it won't. Maybe you will be replacing your new radiator soon as many have because it is not of the same quality as the OEM.
If it fails it would most likely leak slowly as it did before. Don't forget the repair is now part of the tank.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to tgferg67global's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help tgferg67global reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
tgferg67global is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 10:43 AM   #8
madpogue
Super Member
madpogue has much to be proud ofmadpogue has much to be proud ofmadpogue has much to be proud ofmadpogue has much to be proud ofmadpogue has much to be proud ofmadpogue has much to be proud ofmadpogue has much to be proud ofmadpogue has much to be proud of
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Madison, WI USA
Posts: 25,715
 

1996 SW2
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

I gotta wonder, with the typical location/shape of that crack, if it's not due in part to the presence of the cooler line, and the fact that the powertrain moves relative to the body. I'm thinking a fix like this would work better if it were recommissioned into a 5-speed car, without that influence.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to madpogue's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help madpogue reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
madpogue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 10:56 AM   #9
tgferg67global
Member
tgferg67global will become famous soon enoughtgferg67global will become famous soon enough
 
tgferg67global's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 249
 
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

Quote:
Originally Posted by madpogue View Post
I gotta wonder, with the typical location/shape of that crack, if it's not due in part to the presence of the cooler line, and the fact that the powertrain moves relative to the body. I'm thinking a fix like this would work better if it were recommissioned into a 5-speed car, without that influence.
Thats a good point, but the transmission cooler lines are flexible hoses and the crack is always at the top fitting and not the bottom one.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to tgferg67global's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help tgferg67global reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
tgferg67global is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 11:06 AM   #10
tgferg67global
Member
tgferg67global will become famous soon enoughtgferg67global will become famous soon enough
 
tgferg67global's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 249
 
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

http://www.urethanesupply.com/radiator.php

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to tgferg67global's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help tgferg67global reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
tgferg67global is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 11:21 AM   #11
2NDSOUT
Master Member
2NDSOUT is just really nice2NDSOUT is just really nice2NDSOUT is just really nice2NDSOUT is just really nice2NDSOUT is just really nice
 
2NDSOUT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 7,318
 

1994 SL2
1999 SL
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

When you said "Other People that you have seen doing this"; I immediately thought that there were others on saturnfans that had done a repair like this...

Now I see the links from E-how and other websites that have mentioned this--

More power to you that you were able to repair, and I hope that it holds up, but in this instance; I would rather replace it with a new unit.

When it comes to anything that is related to the coolant system (radiator, water pump, etc.) or electrical (battery, starter, etc.) I feel it is always better to replace with a new item rather then trying to fix the broken item...

just my thoughts--- ymmv.

...
Bryan

94SL2 HCE, "Pearl"

99 SL

94SL2 260K Miles
1/15

97SW2 266K Miles
2/15

Always
94SC1 340,501 Miles
Org. Engine/Auto Trans
2/97-10/08
Gone 3/12

92SL1
05VUE
91SC

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to 2NDSOUT's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help 2NDSOUT reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
2NDSOUT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 11:41 AM   #12
TXSaturn02
Master Member
TXSaturn02 has a spectacular aura aboutTXSaturn02 has a spectacular aura aboutTXSaturn02 has a spectacular aura about
 
TXSaturn02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 4,088
 

2002 SL2
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

Thanks for your post. There are a lot of smart people on this site, but sometimes people think that their way is the only way.

Keep us posted.

...
2002 SL2 Manual - new in November, 2001
As of 09/30/17: 223,751 Miles - SOLD
New owner report of 08/08/19: 234,408 Miles

2013 Mazda 3 HB - new in October 2012
As of 07/25/18: 51,495 Miles

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to TXSaturn02's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help TXSaturn02 reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
TXSaturn02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 11:43 AM   #13
Baron5867
Advanced Member
Baron5867 is just really niceBaron5867 is just really niceBaron5867 is just really niceBaron5867 is just really nice
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA suburbs
Posts: 835

1994 SC1
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

Quote:
Originally Posted by tgferg67global View Post
Maybe it will, maybe it won't. Maybe you will be replacing your new radiator soon as many have because it is not of the same quality as the OEM.
Delphi (OEM, supposedly) radiators can be had for around $80 shipped. I am due for this repair myself.

My concern is that even if you repaired that particular crack to be as good as new, that just may mean that the radiator's second most weakest point will soon give. For example, in my case, the radiator likely has over 160k miles on it.

If you want to experiment, great, let us know how it goes, but for $80, I'd rather put an entirely new radiator in and forget it. But if you have the time but not a lot of money, or if you are dumping the car soon, your way might be the way to go.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to Baron5867's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help Baron5867 reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
Baron5867 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 11:50 AM   #14
tgferg67global
Member
tgferg67global will become famous soon enoughtgferg67global will become famous soon enough
 
tgferg67global's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 249
 
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

My car had a slow leak in the area since 2004, 115000 miles ago. Car has 215k now. I added a little fluid every few years. The leak never got any worse until I recently replaced the thermostat. Considering the above scenario I am fairly confident it's going to hold. If the area was under such stress it would have degraded over the years.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to tgferg67global's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help tgferg67global reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
tgferg67global is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 01:47 PM   #15
ehunter
Senior Member
ehunter has a spectacular aura aboutehunter has a spectacular aura about
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Pacifica by San Francisco 5sp Engine rebuild with the help of people here at 177K due to 500mi/qt oil consumption. After 2yrs I am back to 40mpg+ after discovering the refirb head I used was bad. Car runs better than a top. Now at 214k.
Posts: 1,459

1996 SL2
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

Now that you have at least a working solution I would use the time looking for a great price on a great replacement. That way you have it staged if the current does not last as long as you hoped.

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to ehunter's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help ehunter reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
ehunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2011, 01:58 PM   #16
SaturnFix
Member
SaturnFix will become famous soon enoughSaturnFix will become famous soon enough
 
SaturnFix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 430

1995 SC2
1996 SC2
Default Re: Radiator tank crack fix with soldering iron

I've done this a number of times on different S-Series. All I can say is, if you're interested in doing it, go and try it. If not, get a new radiator.

The tanks actually have quite a bit of fiberglass in them. The repairs I did surprisingly held up quite a while though. But I would say it takes practice to get right (and I think most people on here won't have the chance to gain practice first).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron5867 View Post
My concern is that even if you repaired that particular crack to be as good as new, that just may mean that the radiator's second most weakest point will soon give. For example, in my case, the radiator likely has over 160k miles on it.
It would makes sense, but fortunately that spot is this only radiators weakness (short of cooling fin damage). lol

...
What is your Saturn's oil economy?
Canada Saturn owners REVOLT!!! Improper factory spark plugs! c.c
If you are in the Southern Wisconsin area, check out: facebook.com/SaturnFix

REWARD EXCELLENCE!

Add to SaturnFix's Reputation
Rate the quality of this post and help SaturnFix reputation points. Click the reputation button near the bottom left corner of this message box. Thank you!
SaturnFix is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
crack in top of radiator Mobea S-Series Tech 4 04-14-2010 10:38 AM
Crack in Radiator End Tank cmpcpro S-Series Tech 21 03-16-2010 04:27 PM
Crack in radiator? vip3r87 S-Series Tech 12 12-09-2007 07:09 PM
Crack in 96 SL2 Radiator halofan00 S-Series Tech 9 02-21-2006 09:17 PM
new surge tank cap causes crack in the radiator? geartooth94 S-Series Tech 14 05-01-2005 01:59 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:52 AM.

Advanced Forum Search | Advanced Photo Search


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SaturnFans.com. The Saturn Enthusiasts Site.