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Old 07-16-2004, 01:46 AM   #61
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i myself wait a hour and then add more to each cylinder, then what ever is left i split inbetween the crankcase and gas tank

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Old 07-29-2004, 06:37 PM   #62
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Berrymans B-12 is worth a try for the soak But I chickened out and only left it in 6 hours it's way stronger than MMO and the cars harder to start after the soak than the MMO.

I did both and oil consumption seems way down. I was getting about a quart a tank and the car only has 92 K but the previous ownwer was clueless about main. I am crossing my fingers and running mobil 1 0w-40w now

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Old 11-29-2004, 10:25 AM   #63
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Question Re: MMO Piston soak for six days

I added 4 ounces of MMO to each piston on my girls '97 SC1 with 137k on the clock before we left for Thanksgiving. It has not been started for six days now and it did consume some oil before we left. should it be alright to just go ahead and try and start the engine or should I try and force the excess MMO IF THERE IS ANY with the spark plugs out?

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Old 11-29-2004, 02:22 PM   #64
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Four ounces is a lot, even if some cylinders "drank" some. You've got the plugs out. It only takes a minute; throw a rag over the holes (granted, not as easy on an SOHC), pull the PCM B fuse and crank the starter to spit out the remainder. Better than throwing it all over the plugs.

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Old 11-29-2004, 02:37 PM   #65
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well since I was leaving it for six days I put the plugs back in the car . Do you think a SOHC engine that consumes about a qt. every 500 miles would allow four ounces of MMO by in six days of siting? I am not concered about the plugs so much they are brand new and one heat range higher cause of teh oil consuption. I just don't want to compress fluids in the engine!!

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Old 11-30-2004, 12:20 AM   #66
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even if the cylinders looked dry i would still keep the plugs out, the point of the MMO soak is to prevent a engine overhaul not cause one.

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Old 12-01-2004, 10:58 PM   #67
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...the point of the MMO soak is to prevent a engine overhaul not cause one.
haha. That made my day. Yeah, try not to compress those fluids. Sure "hydrolock" sounds like a really cool word, but it's not. Do the old rag in the holes trick. With mine, I pulled the fuel injection and fuel pump fuses. I didn't have any plugs in the holes. I didn't have anything covering them either. I cranked it over by turning the key and man did it sound cool. It sounded better than a turbo but then I looked up and saw liquid running down the side of our garage. I was outside in the driveway and about a quart of MMO nailed the garage about 6 inches below the roof and splashed back everywhere. It started running down and started dripping on my car and all over the driveway... Lesson learned...

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Old 12-03-2004, 09:38 AM   #68
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Well I took my chances, casue I had to use the car. And it started and ran with no problem blew smoke for the first 3 miles though. I don't know if it effected oil consumption yet.

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Old 12-27-2004, 09:17 PM   #69
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I called Saturn before finding this site and they had another suggestion to help with the oil consumption problem. I tried it and it worked great. I also improvised a bit with some tips from the MMO cure. The dealer suggested letting them clean the engine with Mac's. They would do it for $90. I found the Mac's engine cleaner at NAPA and followed the directions on the bottle.

You run this stuff in your oil for a few minutes (read the instructions on the bottle), change your oil and filter, and it cleans the engine.

I added a couple of extra steps. I added about half a quart of MMO to the fresh oil I put in after the Mac's treatment. I also added a couple of ounces to the fuel tank. There was the signature white smoke as this stuff went to work. I changed the oil and filter again after 100mi.

It has been two months and I have not lost any oil! I was losing a quart every three months before.

I didn't pull any plugs or open anything up. It did cost me an extra oil change, though.

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Old 01-22-2005, 06:04 AM   #70
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Default Re: MMO Piston Soak

what results would you have,if you used seafoam instead of mmo for the soak?

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Old 01-22-2005, 10:34 PM   #71
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not much difference, simular products, different brands, but most people perfer MMO.

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Old 01-23-2005, 09:19 PM   #72
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I mixed seafoam and MMO when I did it. I had about a 50/50 mix. I think it helped my oil consumption a little but not enough to consider "worth the effort". Once the summer rolls around I'm gonna try some of the Top Engine Cleaner or the Mac's. Maybe I'll do another Seafoam and/or MMO soak but for a longer period.

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Old 02-20-2005, 10:23 PM   #73
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I'm due for an oil change soon and I was thinking about trying this. I do 5000 mile intervals with Mobil 1 synthetic and I use a quart about every 2000 miles or so. I assume that's normal but the MMO soak has never been done on this car. Will it help loosen and remove any carbon buildup on the piston tops? Maybe I should do a compression test to see. Anyway, I add 4oz to every tank and fuel economy seems to have improved MAYBE 1 mpg in the city. I also top off the oil with it about 500 miles before an oil change, just to make it REALLY black.

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Old 03-31-2005, 06:56 AM   #74
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In my youth I used to work at a used car lot getting old cars to run. A (rusted) frozen engine was not uncommon. We would pull the spark plugs and fill the cylinder with kerosene, then let it sit until it drained down. If we could not turn engine with a wrench on the crank bolt we'd fill it again. Once the engine was free, we would then add Marvel and wait overnight. After Marvel drained down , we'd drain oil. We'd add 5w oil (We would never crank engine until this new oil was added) and run engine without putting a lot of load on it. You could drive it around for short periods until engine stopped smoking. Then drain and put 30W in it.

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Old 04-29-2005, 01:49 AM   #75
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my car took 15 mins of idle and about 5 miles for my car to stop smoking. the smoke was really bad when i first start it. it was really smogged in my garage. made it kinda hard to see. that when the garage wat wide open and the exhaust was pointing outward. i had to use a couple of fans to ease it up. i faced one of the fan on the engine bay cause i didn't want the engine to suk in used air.

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Old 08-10-2005, 01:37 PM   #76
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I just did the MMO soak. I split a 16oz bottle between the cyclinders. Let it sit overnight (about 11 hours) When I looked down the plug holes with my flashlight I couldn't see any MMO. Also I put a towel over the plug holes and cranked the motor. Nothing poped out. When I fired it up, very little smoke came out maybe 15 seconds worth. Should I be worried about this? Motor runs better now anyways.

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Old 08-10-2005, 07:39 PM   #77
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Wow, that's a LOT to pour into the chambers. A capful in each is plenty.

Change your oil ASAP, as you now have that entire 16oz bottle in your crankcase.

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Old 08-10-2005, 11:06 PM   #78
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I did the MMO soak as part of my regular tune up oil change routine. I also did the water/steam clean the pistons/combustion chamber routine as discribed else were in this fourum (that worked well)

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Old 08-11-2005, 07:20 PM   #79
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Meaning, you did the soak before changing the oil, right? And your better running motor is prob. attributable to the steam-clean. Nice to get that boost, eh?

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Yep. I also ran a can of BG Quick Clean through before I changed the oil. (normal for me) I'm going to add the MMO/steam clean at every oil change now. Better to be safe then sorry I say.

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