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Old 12-02-2019, 12:37 PM   #1
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Default Dead starter, but is it really the starter?

November 2018, my original starter died. It decided one night in a Walmart parking lot it wasnít going to crank. It did eventually come back to life, and I continued using it for about a week, but I didnít trust it. I replaced it with a DB Electric starter that everyone here seems to love and itís been great. Just this morning though it wouldnít crank, just like last year at Walmart. Before I go and replace it again though, could there be anything else keeping it from cranking? The ECST has been replaced with a brass one and the battery it still good. Iím kinda stumped here. I know itís possible that the starter is actually dead again but Iím really hoping it isnít. DB Electric also only has a 1 year warranty, so that kinda sucks

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Old 12-02-2019, 01:09 PM   #2
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Default Re: Dead starter, but is it really the starter?

Check and see if there is power on the purple wire on the starter when the key is in the crank position. If there is, try lightly tapping the starter. If not, it's something before the starter. Broken wire, loose connection, bad park/neutral switch.

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Old 12-02-2019, 01:45 PM   #3
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Default Re: Dead starter, but is it really the starter?

So this is kind of embarrassing but once you mentioned the neutral safety switch I realized it wasnít in park this entire time Last night I had to leave it in the road due to there being too much snow and in my frustration, I must have forgotten to put back in park. I just pulled the e-brake, turned it off and called it a night. I didnít even think of checking until I went to release the brake. Canít believe I didnít notice

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Old 12-02-2019, 01:55 PM   #4
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Default Re: Dead starter, but is it really the starter?

I've done that a few times with auto's. Manual transmission's don't care what gear you're in and I'm far more used to starting them lol

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Old 12-04-2019, 09:44 PM   #5
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Default Re: Dead starter, but is it really the starter?

> Last night I had to leave it in the road....

Bet he was looking forward to clambering under the car to swap out the starters, while meltwater invaded his clothing !


I use big pieces of cardboard as a 'creeper' on top of compressed snow/ice, or a wet roadway...Ö...

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Old 12-04-2019, 11:13 PM   #6
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> Last night I had to leave it in the road....

Bet he was looking forward to clambering under the car to swap out the starters, while meltwater invaded his clothing !


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I was getting ready to have it towed when I noticed, lol. (Yay for AAA) I was thinking of using some plywood I have lying around, but that was long after I gave up for the night.

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Default Re: Dead starter, but is it really the starter?

I'm glad it wasn't the starter - I'd feel bad recommending a part/brand that failed you

I should keep a piece of cardboard or 1/4" plywood in the trunk, for getting under the car.

I use a large piece of cardboard in my garage for working underneath - easier to slide on, and provides a little cushion / insulation. The one I currently use is from my first computer, an IBM Aptiva , came with an AMD K6-2 (400mHz, IIRC, and 64 mb RAM). Tells you how old that piece of cardboard is

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Default Re: Dead starter, but is it really the starter?

On my '97 the IgSw got worn and degraded solenoid action.

I see above that blueSl2 mentions a "bad park/neutral switch".
My solenoid action was never good on my '97. I became convinced that the transmission selector (park/neutral) switch was the culprit, but i lost the car before installing the new switch.....

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