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Old 04-22-2016, 07:02 AM   #1
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Three full pages of Chinese spam..

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Yeah, I have been having fantasies of dropping this spammer feet first into a wood chipper Saddam Hussein style. Charlie is going to have to make some changes. A limit of postings for new members would be helpful. etc.

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Old 04-22-2016, 09:46 AM   #3
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It is Korean spam and translates to gibberish. Or google translate is all fouled up.

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Old 04-22-2016, 10:04 AM   #4
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I thought checking at 11:30pm was pretty full with 2pg's of crap, if by morning they've got it up to 6pg's...that's so bad it's impressive.

Just reading the previews & thread titles I figured it was gibberish in any language.

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Old 04-24-2016, 11:35 AM   #5
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There were two separate incidents within a few days of each other. Can't figure why a spammer would even bother with this site.

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Old 04-24-2016, 07:01 PM   #6
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what I don't understand is why there are more than one "view" on each post.
That means people here are curious enough to open each post, that has the subject in a foreign language , to see if there is a understandable message in it .

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Old 04-24-2016, 10:50 PM   #7
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what I don't understand is why there are more than one "view" on each post.
That means people here are curious enough to open each post, that has the subject in a foreign language , to see if there is a understandable message in it .
Probably just people reporting them I'd think.

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Old 04-25-2016, 01:46 AM   #8
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I don't understand is why there are more than one "view" on each post.

I plead guilty to being one view on one post and it was (as ninetynineSC2 opined) in order to report it.

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Old 04-25-2016, 01:53 AM   #9
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Charlie is going to have to make some changes. A limit of postings for new members would be helpful. etc.
That or Captcha software, since these are probably bots. I've sent him a link to some designed to work with VBulletin forum software.

There are some definite similaries in many of the addresses which should also make it easier to shut them down.

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Old 04-25-2016, 09:28 AM   #10
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That or Captcha software, since these are probably bots. I've sent him a link to some designed to work with VBulletin forum software.
I read somewhere that the spam companies are hiring people (someplace like Indonesia) to manually register on forums.

This bypasses Captcha. The company pays a few cents for each forum registration, and the person doing the registration passes on the forum ID to the 'bots who then spam the forum. It only takes one moron to respond and send a few bucks to make it all profitable.

Charlie could use a backup moderator whose only function is to ban obvious spammers (but not otherwise moderate the forums). Should be a retired volunteer who can check somewhat frequently for this kind of thing

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Old 04-25-2016, 09:28 AM   #11
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Didn't they sell Saturns in Korea? Maybe someone is looking for help?

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Old 04-25-2016, 11:30 AM   #12
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Didn't they sell Saturns in Korea? Maybe someone is looking for help?
But a few people have reported that google translate comes back with nothing but gibberish. It might not always be right, but I've used it and it's usually good enough to understand the main points trying to be made. If it wasn't multiple pages worth from (usually) the same user I might think it was legit, but that many threads from one person in such a short amount of time makes me think definite spam.

I agree with the idea of a volunteer admin whose only job is to delete spam threads. Depending on the way Charlie has admin privileges set up it could be easy enough to only allow them to delete threads and nothing else.

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Hasn't anyone yet developed an electronic 21st century version of the Lone Ranger's silver bullet ? That would just be so perfect.....

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Old 04-25-2016, 12:51 PM   #14
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I read somewhere that the spam companies are hiring people (someplace like Indonesia) to manually register on forums.
Probably part of their curriculum. You know, reading, writing, arithmetic, hacking, web manipulation, bot development. It helps develop them before they get to high school.

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This is google translate for one of the postings. Just copied/pasted gibberish, over and over

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Didn't they sell Saturns in Korea? Maybe someone is looking for help?
The Daewoo G2X is a rebadged Saturn Sky. It could be plausable

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I believe vbulletin supports having the first 'X' posts moderated.

That way a moderator has to release the post......

You can also have moderator approval to become a user; have the 'new user' answer a couple of questions which a computer or lackey won't know the answer too.

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I believe vbulletin supports having the first 'X' posts moderated.

That way a moderator has to release the post......

You can also have moderator approval to become a user; have the 'new user' answer a couple of questions which a computer or lackey won't know the answer too.
That went on a while on 6S. People whined about being trapped in noob center purgatory.. but guess who doesn't have any SPAM....

Can't have it both ways.

As I've suggested on more than one occasion... IP Tables block the whole ISP.

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Thanks for ideas and recommendations. I am working on a new approach to addressing the spam problem, but there is a delicate balance when implementing the solution. If I make it too hard to hard to register or prevent large blocks of IP addresses from posting, I inevitably stop legitimate users from participating in the forum. I usually make adjustments to my spam blocking configuration when an attack occurs, and that slows them down or stops it for awhile. This latest wave has been different -- they are registering differently and posting differently. My usual approach isn't working. Either the bots are getting smarter or there are real people involved in the process. I really hate to go to a moderated environment for new users because those folks are usually joining because they have an urgent issue. If it comes to that I will -- and then I may ask for some help moderating -- but I have some other tricks up my slave that I want to try first.

Thank you for your patience and understanding! Please keep reporting posts as you find them. I apologize for the inconvenience and annoyance.

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That went on a while on 6S. People whined about being trapped in noob center purgatory.. but guess who doesn't have any SPAM....

Can't have it both ways.

As I've suggested on more than one occasion... IP Tables block the whole ISP.
The problem with IP tables to block e-mail spam is most of the really pesky stuff does not contain valid header info so that makes the IP block near useless. Might be able to make it work with a BBS, have not tried it though.

If you want to see one of those no spam questions then go register for the Arch Forum. If you are not parked in front of a running Linux system with a terminal window open you are done. Very effective. The problem here is the knowledge and experience level covers such a broad range that you would end up filtering out valid new users.

I have not figured out the actual; purpose or intent of the latest blizzard of spam though. Turn off support for double bite characters and that should near stop it though.

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