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Old 06-02-2010, 06:50 AM   #101
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He'd rather send his money to China then give his fellow americans jobs. Pretty soon he him self will not have a job either so its ok.


BTW, way to dig up a thread thats been dead for 7 months.

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Old 06-05-2010, 03:14 PM   #102
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Yes, a way to dig a thread up after all this time and I think it is kinda funny.

GM got rid of some brands so they can prove to the government and the people that they can pay that stimulus money back to brag about it in the future. Good luck on getting new customers and keeping them as GM will find a way to "screw" them over the way they did me and others.

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Old 06-05-2010, 04:13 PM   #103
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Absolutely NO WAY will I EVER purchase a NEW Government Motors vehicle.

They pissed me off royally when they killed the Saturn.

My money will not go to American Union workers, period.
If you would rather buy from a company that didn't accept TARP funds (but still traveled to Washington with the executives from GM and Chrysler in a show of support), have you looked at Ford?

You know that the restyled Ford Focus will be available next year as a 2012 model. This vehicle will be assembled in Michigan, as opposed to Mexico, with the Fusion and Fiesta.

With Mercury out of the picture by the end of the year, a lean Blue Oval pared down to just Ford and Lincoln, can focus (no pun intended) on quantity and quality. Just my .05 adjusted for inflation.

I'm not happy Saturn's gone either, but if I was in the market for another Saturn, used IONs, VUEs and Auras are plentiful. At least one new S-Series listing appears on Craigslist daily and in the local papers every week.


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Old 06-05-2010, 06:03 PM   #104
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You know that the restyled Ford Focus will be available next year as a 2012 model.
The new Focus could be a little too nice of a car if that is possible. The days of getting a basic compact will be long over with this one. Think everything you'd get in a loaded mid size but in a compact package.
I predict that it will become the best selling car in the US in it's 2nd or 3rd year on the market

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Old 09-02-2011, 09:42 AM   #105
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I am extraordinarily disappointed with the ending of the Saturn brand. I was initially enamored with the "anyone on the assembly line could pull the stop cord" idea. My 2006 VUE is my third Saturn after my SL1 and SL.

Because my brother has been an engineer with GM for 30 years, I would like to stay loyal to GM products, but, frankly, there is nothing in the remaining product lines that appeals to me in my price range. I have looked and looked and looked but nothing grabs me. I was especially hopeful that I would be a winner in the ONstar "Push To Win" Sweepstakes because than I would choose a Cadillac (which is out of my price range).

Thankfully my VUE is running well and I am not in the market for a replacement vehicle. But, if I had to buy a new car today, I would select a Ford Flex. I have scoured the models of many auto manufacturers and to-date the Ford Flex is the only one I like.

So, add me to the 69%.

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Old 09-02-2011, 10:42 AM   #106
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Yes, a way to dig a thread up after all this time and I think it is kinda funny.

GM got rid of some brands so they can prove to the government and the people that they can pay that stimulus money back to brag about it in the future. Good luck on getting new customers and keeping them as GM will find a way to "screw" them over the way they did me and others.
Well, they've already found a way. As posted elswhere here, the "new" GM is refusing to recall/fix suspension problems on some Chevys because they say the cars were built by the "old" or pre bankrupty GM so they aren't legally responsible. The same type of treatment will be in store for all Pontiac,Olds, and Saturns that develop design related problems. As a believer of the free market ecomomic model, if one company can't meet my needs, I'll move on to another that will. As for supporting the Chinese, GM has at least 2 plants in China cranking out Buicks and Cadillacs as fast as they can for the far eastern markets and will soon import Buicks to the US. Many mechanical parts and drivetrain components come from those plants to the US for use in our new GM cars. So even if we "buy GM", we are supporting the Chinese economy.

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Old 09-06-2011, 05:38 PM   #107
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We can't afford a new car any time soon due to two kids in daycare (even if only 2 days a week, here in the most expensive daycare market in the country). If we could, we would probably go for the new Honda Odyssey to replace the L-series wagon. As a rule, I hate minivans, but in terms of maximum passenger/cargo capacity per gallon, they can't be beat. The Odyssey is the only one currently available that isn't plug-ugly. To the best of my knowledge, GM currently doesn't even make one (what's up with that?).

As a Corvair guy, what I'd really like is to get a Greenbrier (America's first minivan!) from the 60s... ) Don't know if the wife will go for that though!

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Old 09-06-2011, 06:54 PM   #108
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As a Corvair guy, what I'd really like is to get a Greenbrier (America's first domestic minivan!) from the 60s... ) Don't know if the wife will go for that though!
Fixed that for ya. The Greenbrier was a direct response to the VW Microbus, which preceeded it here in the US. But indeed, even in their time, neither was a paragon of safety, and by today's standards, both would be a parenthood Bad Thing.

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Old 09-06-2011, 08:24 PM   #109
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I meant to imply domestic, as I was aware of the microbus predating it. And yeah, all of the forward-contol vans of the era were a hazard for the front seat occupants, though behind the front seat, the Greenbrier was a far cry sturdier than the microbus. Both were slow as molasses though! The original Greenbriers had an 80hp engine, and if coupled with the Powerglide 2-speed automatic, went from 0-60 at a leisurely 30 seconds or so.

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Old 09-06-2011, 11:25 PM   #110
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I wonder what the response would be present day. GM still doesn't build anything I really want but they do have some compelling products. If they built a compact 4DR hatchback/wagon with nice interior, good ergonomics, easy to work on, upscale interior, not too many buttons, good fuel economy, and fun to drive vehicle, I'll give them another look. Basically, a GTI competitor.

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Old 09-07-2011, 05:26 AM   #111
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:39 PM   #112
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No. I might buy another Saturn. I'd definitely buy another 1951 Chevrolet, or any Chevrolet made from 1939 through 1951 if I had money to waste on a classic gas guzzler. My favorites are the 1941 and 1949. I'd also consider other GM makes of this vintage. 1941 Cadillac is superb! Probably'd modify the carb with an electric solenoid and exhaust monitoring system for better economy.

Not likely more modern GM cars. Rather have a Honda.

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Old 09-14-2011, 10:07 AM   #113
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Yea, but those are "old GM", which no longer exists since the bailout, so I wouldn't consider that supporting GM now!

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