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Old 04-14-2015, 09:48 AM   #1
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Default What mystery compound do you fill Dog bones with

So I've purchased decent aftermarket Dog bones (DEA)...

...I know I know...OEM or bust... whatever. They need to be replaced and Its proven too difficult and costly to purchase OEM ( I've already replaced the TAM with a genuine GM mount and it set me back 75 bucks and I'm trying to replace all mounts without breaking the bank)

ANYWAY... I've heard of fine results with these mounts as long as you fill the remaining gaps in the rubber with a Polyurethane material. What is said material, and what particular hardness is required/best to use.

Thanks for the input.

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Old 04-14-2015, 10:27 AM   #2
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Looks like McMasterCArr and 3M have 2-part polyurethanes.

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Old 04-14-2015, 10:35 AM   #3
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What's the mystery? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTHANE-TOR...-/271833842431

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Old 04-14-2015, 11:05 AM   #4
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I paid 30 for both mounts, not going to spend close to 40 on inserts, I'm not road racing, just want the motor/acceleration feeling better than it does now ( most definitely ****ty dog bones).

I think doing a solid job at filling these will suffice, they seem to be decently built.

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Old 04-14-2015, 11:37 AM   #5
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:49 AM   #6
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THat's a one part sealant made to be flexible- you want it stiff.

Windows/doors, yes, dogbones, doubtful.

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Old 04-14-2015, 12:14 PM   #7
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SuperGreen--no 1997-2002 OEM dogbones at the junkyards near you?

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Old 04-14-2015, 01:56 PM   #8
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SuperGreen--no 1997-2002 OEM dogbones at the junkyards near you?
honestly dude I have such little time outside work, and ****. My mounts are bad, my motor moves a decent amount when going over the mutliple speed bumps at my apartment complex ( at very slow speed) and when accelerating,shifting,stopping. To set aside the time to go to the junkyard, remove the necessary parts, and then have the time to install them, would be too long of a process, I ordered the DEA ones on amazon for $30 bucks shipped (for 2x) and i'm going to replace them today after work with the couple hours of daylight left after 5pm.

I'm going to drive easy on the car, I don't road race or dump on it, every so often I drive it spirited, but I can't afford repairs so I drive her easy. I don't see these being an issue.

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Old 04-14-2015, 02:13 PM   #9
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They will be fine for short term. I have Anchor dogbones on my car currently. The poly inserts I put in my OEM dogbones resulted in too much vibration for me to be comfortable with even with a new OEM trans and engine mount (these are now in a box on a shelf).

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Old 04-14-2015, 03:00 PM   #10
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honestly dude I have such little time outside work, and ****. My mounts are bad, my motor moves a decent amount when going over the mutliple speed bumps at my apartment complex (at very slow speed) and when accelerating, shifting, stopping. To set aside the time to go to the junkyard, remove the necessary parts, and then have the time to install them, would be too long of a process, I ordered the DEA ones on amazon for $30 bucks shipped (for 2x) and I'm going to replace them today after work with the couple hours of daylight left after 5pm.
It's your decision, of course, but if you later find reason to revisit it, I think you could easily be in and out of a junkyard with a pair of serviceable OEM dogbones within an hour. My last visit to a junkyard took about two hours and I was pulling battery straps and an IATS connector as well as the dogbone. My skill level working on these cars is such that thermostat jobs other people describe as taking "20 minutes" take me about three hours.

Good luck getting the new dogbones installed. I personally wouldn't bother with trying to fill the webbing.

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Old 04-14-2015, 08:23 PM   #11
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what is used is windshield-urethane.. get it at most parts stores, spray good to clean with carb or brake clean,let dry, fill em up and let cure for 3 days.. did the ones on my Neon..

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So I've purchased decent aftermarket Dog bones (DEA)...

...I know I know...OEM or bust... whatever. They need to be replaced and Its proven too difficult and costly to purchase OEM ( I've already replaced the TAM with a genuine GM mount and it set me back 75 bucks and I'm trying to replace all mounts without breaking the bank)

ANYWAY... I've heard of fine results with these mounts as long as you fill the remaining gaps in the rubber with a Polyurethane material. What is said material, and what particular hardness is required/best to use.

Thanks for the input.

3M Window Weld is one of the common things used. 55-60 durometer.

Marine Adhesive 5200 (also 3M) I think it falls in the 65-70 hardness durometer rating. Probably higher sheer strength than the Window Weld stuff.

Sticky stuff, use with gloves and have clean up stuff on hand. Neither is cheap, but they work. And don't put the 5200 on anything you want to remove it from. You have been warned!

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Old 04-14-2015, 11:22 PM   #13
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Not to give you any crappy ideas, but some of the older fashioned guys in the racing community here make their own bushings out of hockey pucks. They're cheap and made of a very hard polyurethane. I haven't tried it myself though, so if you're gonna try it lets just pretend you thought it up on your own

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Not to give you any crappy ideas, but some of the older fashioned guys in the racing community here make their own bushings out of hockey pucks. They're cheap and made of a very hard polyurethane. I haven't tried it myself though, so if you're gonna try it lets just pretend you thought it up on your own

That's a darn smart idea.

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Not to give you any crappy ideas, but some of the older fashioned guys in the racing community here make their own bushings out of hockey pucks. They're cheap and made of a very hard polyurethane. I haven't tried it myself though, so if you're gonna try it lets just pretend you thought it up on your own
I've read about guys on the Infiniti G20 forum doing this as well. Also, have not tried myself.

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Seems like a hockey puck wouldn't be far from a solid mount. Then again, anything that hits you in the shin at high speeds often feels solid.

I've seen other forums where people are rebuilding different mounts using the various types of urethanes and such. Really it's probably reasonably cheap compared to buying new mounts, but you have to find the right stuff to use for each application.

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Seems like a hockey puck wouldn't be far from a solid mount. Then again, anything that hits you in the shin at high speeds often feels solid.

I've seen other forums where people are rebuilding different mounts using the various types of urethanes and such. Really it's probably reasonably cheap compared to buying new mounts, but you have to find the right stuff to use for each application.
I have my original first generation solid aluminum mount, I wonder if I could remove the original rubber and bolt pass through, cut out a fill with a hockey puck on a band saw, and drill out a hole for the metal sleeve for the bolt, lol would be so ghetto, but those original mounts are beefy as **** compared to these aftermarket mumbo jumbo

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I have my original first generation solid aluminum mount, I wonder if I could remove the original rubber and bolt pass through, cut out a fill with a hockey puck on a band saw, and drill out a hole for the metal sleeve for the bolt, lol would be so ghetto, but those original mounts are beefy as **** compared to these aftermarket mumbo jumbo
First gen aluminum mounts were changed for a reason... brittle if I remember right.

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