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Old 07-24-2008, 03:08 PM   #1
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The good news is that my car passed emissions testing, because I had a new catalytic converter put on. The bad news is that when I went for an oil change at a GM dealership I found out that my radiator is split on the left side and is leaking slowly & the ball joint on the drivers side front end is going south as well. How much will it cost to have both fixed as a garage?

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Old 07-24-2008, 03:28 PM   #2
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Totally depends on the labor rate at the garage (both their per-hour and what they rate the job at, since most garages don't charge real-time, but have a standard # of hours for each job, whether it takes them that long or not).

It's not that hard to replace a radiator with basic tools...

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Old 07-24-2008, 03:32 PM   #3
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Radiator- couple of hours. Kind of awkward but there are worse jobs on Saturns. New radiator is in the $100 range for the part.

Ball joint- couple of hours. Might be tough to get the hardware loose, depending on how rusted it all is. Cost unknown. Could get at Autozone.
A shop would probably add on an alignment. You could get away without one if you were careful.

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Old 07-24-2008, 03:36 PM   #4
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Just replaced the radiator on my SL2. I priced the parts and for the radiator alone it is $185 at Autozone. So I had a local shop do it. Whole replacement for $310 at the shop.

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Old 07-25-2008, 07:02 AM   #5
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You can get a radiator at www.rockauto.com for $80.

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Old 07-25-2008, 07:43 AM   #6
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^ +1 !!!!!!

I replaced my radiator thru a parts store off of ebay back in 2005 for my 94 SC1.

Total cost---$85, and about 2 hours worth of work (never had done a replacement radiator before.)

All is well!

The radiator crack is one issue on the S-series that was never perfected due to the fact that the plastic tanks on the sides were probably not the best choice for radiator construction.

Replacing is not that difficult. I would suggest that if you have an automatic; that you replace the upper/lower trans cooling lines as well that lead from the radiator into the auto trans (if your car is automatic). These can be purchased from the dealer (3 years ago each of these lines were $15-$20 a piece...preventative maintenance as you don't want old trans cooling lines feeding into a new radiator.)

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Old 07-25-2008, 03:26 PM   #7
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The process of changing out a radiator isn't too painful, but it is time consuming. It took me about 4 hours to change mine out a couple of weekends ago. I can't find Richpin's video on pulling it out, but here's a link with images.

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42028

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Old 07-26-2008, 02:52 AM   #8
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Should my car be safe to drive to my brother's house? He said that he'll do the work for me.

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Old 07-26-2008, 02:56 AM   #9
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^ +1 !!!!!!

Replacing is not that difficult. I would suggest that if you have an automatic; that you replace the upper/lower trans cooling lines as well that lead from the radiator into the auto trans (if your car is automatic). These can be purchased from the dealer (3 years ago each of these lines were $15-$20 a piece...preventative maintenance as you don't want old trans cooling lines feeding into a new radiator.)
Thank you 2NDSOUT for mentioning the trans cooling lines, I never enev thought about it. Can you buy the cooling lines from a parts store such as NAPA?

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Old 07-26-2008, 02:58 AM   #10
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While I'm on the subject of repairs, should I have the tie rods replaced while having the ball joint replaced?

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Old 07-26-2008, 02:59 AM   #11
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Thank you 2NDSOUT for mentioning the trans cooling lines, I never enev thought about it. Can you buy the cooling lines from a parts store such as NAPA?
I don't know but for some reason I ended up getting mine at Saturn...probably because if they do sell them they would have to order them, but being it's more of a specialty part, you might have to just get them from Saturn.

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Old 07-26-2008, 05:04 AM   #12
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dalejrfan71 -

I think I had the same radiator crack recently :

New Radiator at 154K Miles ...
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=116133

I paid $360 total, but was back on the road within 4 hours.

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Thank you 2NDSOUT for mentioning the trans cooling lines, I never enev thought about it. Can you buy the cooling lines from a parts store such as NAPA?
I don't know if you can get them at NAPA or not. It may be best to get them from the dealer, as Saturnmaniac mentioned, I think these are more of a specialty part. Otherwise you will be rigging something up with loose hose that you have laying around and that isn't something that I would suggest.

When I removed the radiator and cooling lines from my 91 project car, the radiator supports weren't even factory (they were rigged with 10 MM nuts/bolts and washers ) and the cooling lines were just regular hosing held in with C-Clamps, It's no wonder that the car only ran "fair" when I bought it. The guy that owned it before me didn't take care of it.

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While I'm on the subject of repairs, should I have the tie rods replaced while having the ball joint replaced?
If the inner tie rod ends are worn out, then yes. After removing the outer tie rod end you can tell if the inner is worn out also by checking it for slop the same way you checked the outer joint. They usually are in OK condition though.

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Old 07-27-2008, 01:01 AM   #15
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Should I have my brother check the shocks & the brakes as well?

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I recently had my daughter's radiator replaced in her 96 SL1. It had the same problem. It was cracked on the left side. I was in a hurry so I took it to a shop that I know. The total bill was ab out $330.

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Wow these shops are outrageous compared to what I paid...I paid $100 for the radiator and $100 for getting it installed. I could've done it myself but was too lazy. It's not that hard of a job at all, just time consuming.

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The hardest part is removing the A/C condenser off of the front of the radiator and replacing it. If you are careful you don't even get your hands dirty. Its 80.00 for an aftermarket radiator and an hours work. That works out to about 230.00/hr which is good $$ as far as I can tell.

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