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Old 09-22-2009, 09:50 PM   #21
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I just noticed that my XE is pulling very slightly to the right when I accelerate, but not when I am coasting. Is this normal? The tires seem to be balanced, no wobbling or shaking, car drives just fine otherwise.
Mine will do that also if I accelerate fast from a dead stop.
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Old 07-02-2019, 03:02 PM   #22
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Did any one ever figure this out?

2003 Saturn Ion 3, Manual 5 speed is doing this only when accelerating from a stop or while cruising. No pull while cruising.

Could bad engine mounts or Tranny mount cause this?
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Old 07-06-2019, 08:30 AM   #23
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Hum... posting to the wrong forum for a Saturn Ion, and its a very old thread.

That said...

Assuming this a new issue, and your vehicle is high mileage. I'd be looking at a host of things in the suspension and steering. Struts aging, worn tie-rod ends, control arm bushing. There may also be other contributing factors as well.
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Old 07-06-2019, 05:03 PM   #24
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The sight search engine dropped me here, and since this thread was about the same topic, and ion is also a Saturn with front wheel drive and Saturn suspension I started here.

Tires, rim and struts were already new. That got rid of a steady pull (curb attack on the un armed Ion bent a wheel, murdered a tire, LOL).

It had been aligned before and after the new struts were installed.

New tie rods and new sway bar links and SBL bushings added, not yet aligned but replacing the worn ones helped.

I had never heard of heard of loose tie rods causing a pull ONLY when accelerating.

I am still leaning towards possible engine mount/Tranny mount being bad???

In fact all the steering pull issues I ever worked on or had in 45 years were continuous, even while cruising and were almost always bad/new or worn tires.

I will have them recheck the strut caliper bolts and make sure the bottom ones are not moving!!! I agree on that one possibly being cause.

I am 1500 miles from the car, helping my daughter debug the cause.

Thanks for the reply!!!

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Hum... posting to the wrong forum for a Saturn Ion, and its a very old thread.

That said...

Assuming this a new issue, and your vehicle is high mileage. I'd be looking at a host of things in the suspension and steering. Struts aging, worn tie-rod ends, control arm bushing. There may also be other contributing factors as well.
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Old 07-06-2019, 07:00 PM   #25
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...In fact all the steering pull issues I ever worked on or had in 45 years were continuous, even while cruising and were almost always bad/new or worn tires...
A possibility of one tire having internal layers separating (probably at the right side) could account for the pulling which is being experienced.
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Old 07-07-2019, 04:13 PM   #26
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I have never experienced, nor heard of, nor could I find any online claims that a tire issue (of any kind) would only pull to the side during acceleration. This a pull that is only during acceleration, from a dead stop or from any initial speed.

The pull stops while cruising at a steady speed.

Are you saying a tire issue can cause a pull only while accelerating?

Just to be clear.

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Old 07-07-2019, 05:46 PM   #27
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I intentionally highlighted the words possibility and could for a reason: I may be wrong (and I probably am - that's okay, it's not a personal thing). I believed it was something to be considered.
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Old 07-07-2019, 06:20 PM   #28
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My original post considered it and discounted it, but was asking for any out in left field experiences with odd causes..... In 47 years I have never seen or felt this exact issue, and I have had bad tires, new and old, bent frames, Cracked frame near where the steering hardware connects to the car, worn front end parts, busted engine and trany mounts, and even what we call death wobble on Jeeps (I also own jeeps LOL) and never had this issue before.

But thanks for the feedback!!!

Right now I am waiting for more feedback from the driver/owner (1500 miles away) as to whether the new tie rods ends and Sway bar links stopped it. It needs to be realigned first this week. I have also asked he to check for a busted engine or tranny mount.

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Old 07-08-2019, 08:26 AM   #29
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I had a tire issue last year that seemed impossible to diagnose. The car pulled slightly to one side and drove me crazy. I noticed it more while accelerating, but it was definitely always there at cruising speed. If I let go of the wheel on a highway, it would veer to one side.

Mileage was only 100k so nothing is too worn out or sloppy. The alignment shop kept saying everything is straight and within spec. They even tried to compensate for it with extra camber on one side. It started getting worse and developed a slight vibration. Eventually the tire started to visibly bulge from an outer band that had let loose. The bulge was very subtle and hard to see, but with all 4 tires off the car and lying on the ground, you could just barely see that one was slightly more oblong. Just a slight difference in tire diameter across the tread width, due to the loose band, caused the steering to do weird, unexplainable things.

It was time to replace tires anyway, and doing so 100% cleared up the issue.
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Thanks!!!!

The tires are new, so I will add them back to the maybe causing it list!!!

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I had a tire issue last year that seemed impossible to diagnose. The car pulled slightly to one side and drove me crazy. I noticed it more while accelerating, but it was definitely always there at cruising speed. If I let go of the wheel on a highway, it would veer to one side.

Mileage was only 100k so nothing is too worn out or sloppy. The alignment shop kept saying everything is straight and within spec. They even tried to compensate for it with extra camber on one side. It started getting worse and developed a slight vibration. Eventually the tire started to visibly bulge from an outer band that had let loose. The bulge was very subtle and hard to see, but with all 4 tires off the car and lying on the ground, you could just barely see that one was slightly more oblong. Just a slight difference in tire diameter across the tread width, due to the loose band, caused the steering to do weird, unexplainable things.

It was time to replace tires anyway, and doing so 100% cleared up the issue.
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I had some cheap tires on the back of the Astra which made some noise and vibration. The shop rebalanced the tires and in the process discovered some delamination.

Tech said not uncommon on cheap tires these days. I didn't see the issue on visual inspection so am not sure if the tech figured it out with balancing results, better visual inspection, dismounting or what.
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Good article. Really intersting
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