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Old 11-26-2012, 01:54 AM   #1
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This is almost to unreal to be true. A couple of weeks ago I posted that the 1995 SL-2 we purchased new had met an untimely end in an accident.

Now it is with great sadness I report that MY SC-2 has also been killed. While returning home from a business trip, at about 8 PM on an interstate highway, I collided with a 175 lb, 8 point buck at 75 MPH. It wasn't pretty.

The hood is pushed back and the radiator support is pushed back destroying the radiator. The windshield is broken and the right front fender is in pieces.
Initial estimates are roughly $4000.00 in damage.

The actual drive train is not damaged. We were able to drive it onto the tow truck. You just can't run it long as the cooling system is compromised.

I really loved that car. I have had it since almost new and there is no way I will find one that has been maintained like I maintain a car. I don't care for the 2000 and later ones with the changes to the interiors and intakes and the older ones don't have the third door so I have limited myself to a 99.

I havn't decided what to replace it with. My wife will be getting a 96 SL-2 to replace her 95.

All I can do right now is cry in my beer. I HATE deer.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:36 AM   #2
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That sucks, sorry to hear. At least you are okay, I know it sucks but car's are replaceable.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:02 AM   #3
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Cut the radiator support out of the wrecked sedan and weld it into the coupe. Swap the radiator over. Buy a junkyard hood and fender. You'll have to get the windshield professionally replaced. Ball park, $400 for the windshield, $100 for the welding, $200 for the parts....
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:42 PM   #4
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This is almost to unreal to be true. A couple of weeks ago I posted that the 1995 SL-2 we purchased new had met an untimely end in an accident.

Now it is with great sadness I report that MY SC-2 has also been killed. While returning home from a business trip, at about 8 PM on an interstate highway, I collided with a 175 lb, 8 point buck at 75 MPH. It wasn't pretty.

The hood is pushed back and the radiator support is pushed back destroying the radiator. The windshield is broken and the right front fender is in pieces.
Initial estimates are roughly $4000.00 in damage.

The actual drive train is not damaged. We were able to drive it onto the tow truck. You just can't run it long as the cooling system is compromised.

I really loved that car. I have had it since almost new and there is no way I will find one that has been maintained like I maintain a car. I don't care for the 2000 and later ones with the changes to the interiors and intakes and the older ones don't have the third door so I have limited myself to a 99.

I havn't decided what to replace it with. My wife will be getting a 96 SL-2 to replace her 95.

All I can do right now is cry in my beer. I HATE deer.
There's a tear in my beer, 'cause I'm cryin' for ya' [deer]. You are on my lonely mind.

First thing that popped in my head... I had to. That really, really sucks. I know how you feel. No one I know had kept a Saturn looking the way I kept mine. The paint still squeaked from wax, and the interior was spotless due to a recent detail. He said that "he never saw a cleaner wrecked car in his life."

I lucked out and found a Saturn that's pretty darn close to mine with the upgraded interior and power options. It took a year (to the day, actually) but I found one. Be patient, be persistent, and search constantly, and you'll find one that calls your name.

Plus, keep yours for parts and try to find an identical car. That's what I did. Nothing quite like knowing you have every part at your disposal at any given time.

Best of luck to you. Hope everyone is ok - except for that deer. I hate them too. Get to Saturn searching. I don't want to see members leave!

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Cut the radiator support out of the wrecked sedan and weld it into the coupe. Swap the radiator over. Buy a junkyard hood and fender. You'll have to get the windshield professionally replaced. Ball park, $400 for the windshield, $100 for the welding, $200 for the parts....
Excellent suggestion. I'm not entirely positive, but if you have insurance with glass coverage, isn't the windshield able to go through to insurance for repair?? Someone with more legal knowledge than I could answer that one.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:57 PM   #5
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i think we should keep you away from Saturns. We'd like to keep as many on the road as possible.

What about a sedan or Ion?
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The only way it would cost $4000 to fix is if it's an extremely greedy shop.
You could pick up a decent parts car for around $400, get a new windshield, and find someone willing to either bend the radiator support back or replace it with the one in the parts car
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:18 AM   #7
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i think we should keep you away from Saturns. We'd like to keep as many on the road as possible.

What about a sedan or Ion?
@ bold: so much for keeping him away from Saturns.. lol

but yeah, now that deer can go into your belly! That's where I love to have mine.. deer chili...
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:34 AM   #8
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Cut the radiator support out of the wrecked sedan and weld it into the coupe. Swap the radiator over. Buy a junkyard hood and fender. You'll have to get the windshield professionally replaced. Ball park, $400 for the windshield, $100 for the welding, $200 for the parts....
Good suggestions but the front end parts from the sedan wouldn't be usable. When she hit the pole, she hit it dead center pushing the radiator all the way back to the engine so it's radiator support is toast as well.

While the insurance has not yet looked at the car, I finally had time to get the hood open. When the radiator support was pushed back in the center, it pulled the sides of the space frame in. I don't know the extent of how much that was damaged as I have not removed the fenders.

Both headlight assemblies are in a million pieces and a lot of the airdam and splash shields underneith the front along with most of the shrouding for the radiator and fan and the fan blades are destroyed not to mention the airconditioner condensor.

All this is very evident without taking the car apart.

BELIEVE me, if insurance says it is fixable, it will be repaired. But I am not too optomisitc about it at this point.

As for looking for another one to replace it, I would love to. But I was pretty meticulous about the way I kept a car and finding one like that will not be too easy given it was comming up on 13 years old. And call me a snob is you want, but I have always considered myself a Saturn purist. If it is a rebadged Opel and not built in Spring Hill, I don't want it.

My other real problem is more pressing. With my wife's not yet replaced, (we have arranged to buy a 96 SL-2 to replace her 95 but the seller is not yet ready to sell it), and now MY car is gone, I am without a car. (it is getting a bit cold and rainy for the motorcycle). I really need to get something pretty soon. So right now my wife is driving my truck and I am driving a car borrowed from my daughter and her husband.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:47 AM   #9
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i think we should keep you away from Saturns. We'd like to keep as many on the road as possible.

What about a sedan or Ion?
I would almost agree with you but not really. As noted in my reply to Madpogue, we already have a 96 lined up for my wife. But I know that car. I know when it was purchased, I know the owner and I know how he maintains a car. So no, we are not staying away from Saturns, we just need to stay away from deer

Obviously I don't have a problem with a sedan as long as it is an SL model preferably an SL-2. But I have never really liked the Ions and do not consider anything that is a rebadged Opel or built anywhere but Spring Hill to be a real Saturn.
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But I have never really liked the Ions and do not consider anything that is a rebadged Opel or built anywhere but Spring Hill to be a real Saturn.
Then get a Vue.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:18 AM   #11
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Then get a Vue.
S-Series or bust!!!
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:27 AM   #12
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Insurance adjuster is comming tomorrow morning (Thursday) to look at the car. I'll post the results.
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Then get a Vue.
Great suggestion

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S-Series or bust!!!
Don't go hating on Vues

I miss my S-series....... but love my Vue

The Vue is a great car if you want something just a bit bigger than a SW.... I can haul a lot more in my Vue than ever in my SWs

The gas millage is a bit less but its an SUV (I have the 6 cly though)

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Don't go hating on Vues
Don't worry I don't just hate on Vues, I don't like SUV's in general.
But I don't like anything from Saturn other than the S-series.
I do think the Vue Redline looks great though, for an SUV.
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Don't worry I don't just hate on Vues, I don't like SUV's in general.
what are you, some kind of enviornmentalist? I mean I know Canada gas/diesel is at least $5/gal, but damn...

The Vue is one of a few SUVs that's small AND comes with a 4cyl base... AND a manual.
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As expected, the insurance adjuster totaled the car. After looking it over quite well and taking a ton of pictures, measuring the tire tread depth, she said it was quite obvious and didn't actually go through all the trouble of writing an estimate. She said in Kentucky, they are required to write the full estimate even if it is obvious it is a total, but not in Tennessee.

She did go far enough to show me several things that would be in the estimate and it quicky exceeded the threashold and she never even got to labor, paint and materials. Tennessee law requires if the repair exceeds a given percentage of the value of the car, (I can't remember what that is, 50% or 75%), they are required to total the car.
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