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Old 01-28-2002, 12:25 AM   #1
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Default KYB struts and Eibach springs

Hi All,

I'm going to buy new springs and struts for my 96 SL2. Aside from the obvious, do I need anything else to do this right? KYB sells new strut mounts and Eibach has a camber adjustment kit. Do I need to buy these? How easy is the install for the home mechanic?

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Old 01-28-2002, 08:21 AM   #2
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Getting new mounts and a camber kit would be a very good idea.

They are not NECESSARY for the install but having new mounts put in while the struts are out is cheap insurance. Also I've heard of people being able to install the eibachs without a camber kit but the camber kit would make it easier for he person doing the install and might reduce the labor cost if you were to take it to a shop.

My clubmate was able to do his strut/spring install in his garage with basic tools, jackstands and a spring compressor. So anyone with basic mechanical skills should be able to pull this off without a hitch. Just be sure that the first place the car goes after the install is the alignment shop.

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Old 01-28-2002, 01:40 PM   #3
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Default Re: KYB struts and Eibach springs

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Hi All,

I'm going to buy new springs and struts for my 96 SL2. Aside from the obvious, do I need anything else to do this right? KYB sells new strut mounts and Eibach has a camber adjustment kit. Do I need to buy these? How easy is the install for the home mechanic?

Thanks,
Pat
use your existing strut mounts. kyb struts don't need camber adjustment kits because the kyb struts have enough adjustment with the slots on the bottom holes to set them back to normal if you don't want too much negative camber. i've installed struts and springs on mine and buddies saturns and it's fairly easy. you'll need a spring compressor and jack stands to do it. it helps if you have an air tools too. oh yeah you'll need an alignment afterwards. have your saturn store do it so they don't screw it up like some places do

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Old 03-10-2005, 10:45 AM   #4
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Sorry to raise the dead.

I have Eibach Pro-Kit springs and I'm thinking I should change the struts soon. The ride is getting rougher and less comfortable. Sometimes when I go over a speed bump, there's a pinging noise from the right rear corner. I looking to installing KYB GR-2 struts as I've heard good things about them when coupled with lowering springs. Should I also change the strut mounts and boots when I do this? Really I should have done this when I installed the springs. I guess that's practice now. My car should handle and ride better after installing new struts and swapping the stock alloys with 15" Konig Heliums with Kuhmo Ecsta 711 215/55-15 tires.

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Old 03-10-2005, 01:04 PM   #5
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i put on kyb's and sprint 2". and w/ the kyb's i could have gone as much as -3deg camber up front. but i didnt more like -1.75 and the thing handled awesomely. about -1 in the rear. it was awesome. but on the new ride drop zones w. no name struts. Drop zones are ok. hurts over bumps but crucial in the corners.

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Old 03-10-2005, 01:12 PM   #6
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i put on kyb's and sprint 2". and w/ the kyb's i could have gone as much as -3deg camber up front. but i didnt more like -1.75 and the thing handled awesomely. about -1 in the rear. it was awesome. but on the new ride drop zones w. no name struts. Drop zones are ok. hurts over bumps but crucial in the corners.
How was the ride with the KYB struts? I think the KYB struts are stiffer than stock and dampens better than stock struts with lowering springs. Also, how was the tire wear with all the camber? I try to keep mine at -.5 camber all around and no more than -1 with as little toe as possible.

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How was the ride with the KYB struts? I think the KYB struts are stiffer than stock and dampens better than stock struts with lowering springs. Also, how was the tire wear with all the camber? I try to keep mine at -.5 camber all around and no more than -1 with as little toe as possible.
handling was awesome. after you went over a bump it like didnt jounce at all.i believe the kybs are 30% stiffer rebound in the front and stock spec in the rear. tire wear was a lil excessive the way i had it set up. but 1 deg would probally be real close if not in spec.

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Old 03-10-2005, 09:14 PM   #8
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Yup, handeling goes way up. I did just what you want to do, Eibach and KYB's left in the stock strut mounts. There was no need for the camber kit. I did the install in about 3 hours in the driveway. Go to Sears and buy a spring compressor and a 21mm open end for the stock top nut and I think the top nut on the KYB's was a 19mm (doublecheck I am a bit fuzzy on that). Also a 17.5mm rear sway bar made a great improvement. If you can do it all at once. Lots-a-fun.

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I'm going to buy new springs and struts for my 96 SL2. Aside from the obvious, do I need anything else to do this right? KYB sells new strut mounts and Eibach has a camber adjustment kit. Do I need to buy these? How easy is the install for the home mechanic?
with KYB GR2 struts you do -not- need any camber adjustment kit. the KYB struts have a slotted hole on the bottom so you have plenty of adjustment there already.
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for the disassembly of the stock struts, USE A SPRING COMPRESSOR. i have seen someone get shot by a flying spring from my 96sl2 and it takes many beers to make the pain go away. also, there are bearings in the front strut assembly and they flew all over. took us an extra 20 min to get those rounded up, cleaned and back where they belong. when putting the lowering springs on the new struts, you probably won't need a compressor, the springs are too short to pre-load properly. i've always wondered if there would be a performance benefit of having those kyb struts shortened by about an inch and a half so the springs could be pre-loaded on the strut. anyone have an insight to this?

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Yup, handeling goes way up. I did just what you want to do, Eibach and KYB's left in the stock strut mounts. There was no need for the camber kit. I did the install in about 3 hours in the driveway. Go to Sears and buy a spring compressor and a 21mm open end for the stock top nut and I think the top nut on the KYB's was a 19mm (doublecheck I am a bit fuzzy on that). Also a 17.5mm rear sway bar made a great improvement. If you can do it all at once. Lots-a-fun.
I haven't done suspension in a saturn yet, but I know that w/ VWs you should ALWAYS change the strut mount. it is usually worn, and why wouldn't you want to replace it while you're in there? it's like changing the water pump on a V6 when you change the timing belt. you save on labor and it's preventative maintenance.

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