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Old 01-22-2001, 03:03 PM   #1
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Default Aaauuugggh! Why isn't the roof plastic too???

A ding. A big fat ugly crater-like ding. In the roof, no less. The ####### car is 1 month old, and boom! I had my other car 12 years and nothing. This bites.

I can not believe that I got a dent in my roof, but there it is. About the diameter of a quarter and maybe 1/2 inch deep. Looks like someone dropped a stone on it from a tall building. I guess that explains the load POP/BANG! that I heard when driving around 177th St and East Tremont in the Bonx last week. It terrified me, but I couldn't find anything wrong, so i assumed it was just typical 'environmental noise'. Sigh.

I'm not so concerned about the dent itself, its not the most visible thing, being on top of the car, but I fear that the paint will start to come off in the center of the depression and spread. (?)

Do I go straight to a body shop, or check with my retailer?

Any ideas on what would happen to my insurance premiums if I report it? (I assume that fixing it would be below my $500 deductible)

Or do I just shake my head and ignore it?

Joey? Want to send me a roof? Ha!
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Old 01-22-2001, 03:10 PM   #2
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"POP/BANG"? Hmmm, are you sure that wasn't a gun shot?
 
Old 01-22-2001, 03:24 PM   #3
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Might want to see if there's a "Dent wizard" franchisee near you. If the paint's not bad, they can many times push out the dent w/o having to repaint a panel.
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Old 01-22-2001, 03:51 PM   #4
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Jon: I am not at all sure that it wasn't a gun shot. It was my first guess. Only when I found this dent I figured either:

a) it was a gunshot and the dent has nothing to do with the sound I heard
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b) the sound WAS related to the dent, and therefore was not likely a gunshot, b/c that would probably have penetrated the car.

BobL: never heard of DentWizard, but its something I will look into. Then again, if the paint's not so bad, I don't really mind leaving it. If the paint is bad, Dent Wizard won't be much help.
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Old 01-22-2001, 04:06 PM   #5
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sure, i can send you a roof! lol, but seriously bob gave you some good advice, when its not a bad ding that chipped the paint the dent wizards do a decent job, its usally still visible somewhat if you look closely but i have seen them pull most dents out pretty good, they usally know when their work will benifit you or weather its body shop material and usually they tell you up front.
lastly, if it does need to go to a body shop one ding on the roof is pretty easy eacuse the saturns have gaskets or what we call "break"lines it is easy to tape the roof off and shoot it, a decent shop should be between 100-500.00 to fix the dent and paint.
 
Old 01-22-2001, 04:36 PM   #6
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I'd like to know what the dent looks like. Is it a crease, bulge, or dimple?
If it's smooth like a ball hit it and there are no creases in it, you can have it pulled out. They have very high compression suction pumps that look like glass holders and they can suck out most dents on a large span of metal like to roof.
Does it affect the inside of the car? Another technique, that probably only works in the summer, is to take a large piece of Felt paper for roofing and lay it over the entire roof. Place something heavy over the top of the paper and wait. Sometimes the paper will heat up the metal enough to pop the dent out.
I ran into a hail storm once and the insurance company was going to total out my car because of the hood, roof and trunk. There were over 500 dents and dimples on the car. I just covered it with felt paper for 3 days and most all of the dents came out. A few where the roof meets the windshield stayed, but you couldn't tell unless you did the Rainman dance while looking at the car...
Another place is called Dentmasters.
Do a search in the phone book for paintless dent removal or ask your local Dealer who they use. Most every dealer has a regular dent removal place that comes to the dealer and fixes the used cars...
Good luck.
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I have had some good luck with this process as Roof dent's are a pain to work on. Heat the Roof or get it in the hot Sun to get it hot then when hot, put a piece of Dry Ice on it and sometime's this will draw the dent out if it is not bad.
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Oh I know. Why couldn't they just make it all polymer? Why with the hood, they could've made it steel and put the plastic (ahem....polymer) on top of it. They should put clear polymer on top of the sunroof. When I first got this car (it's been awhile) it was victim to a hailstorm. Well a nice big chunk hit the sunroof and it didn't dent. It broke. Expensive.

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Old 01-23-2001, 12:31 AM   #9
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OK. Now I think maybe it was a brick. The damage kind of looks like a shallow line leading to the center of the ding where it appears like something pointy (corner of brick?) hit it. I'm thankful it didn't hit the windshield.


As far as I can tell, there is some damage to the paint. So, I suppose, 'dent repair' won't do. If I don't get it repainted, I risk rust damage and a spread of the paint chipping. True or False?
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True. It may take some time, but it will rust if the paint is broken.
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The reason that the Horz surfaces are not made of Thermal Plastic is because of the weight it would have taken up and the difficulty to get the mold to span the distance. Many of the SW's have injection molded Thermal plastic roofs, but they found it difficult to always get a good mold from the molder. So they just started using metal. Another reason is that the hood and trunk are designed to absorb the impact during an accident, and if they were thermal plastic it would require some complex engineering to get the crumple zones into them. By using metal they save weight, increase rigidity, and work well in crashes.
This is a benefit of a well made REAL Carbon Fibre hood. They are lighter than metal and mimic it's features plus are impervious to dents.
Imagine a Carbon Fibre Saturn, the whole thing the doors, roof, hood, trunk, quarter panels, and fenders made of Kelm baked carbon fibre. It would save about 20% in weight and look awesome. I'd have one made with yellow/black cloth and finished with a pearl iridescent clear coat. No reason to paint it, it would look great the way it was. I'd also modify the body panels to a more wide-body look and add gills to the front fenders.
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OH, I got an idea... I'll get Fiberset, Inc. to build body panels like this and have them use the composite material they use on the F-117 and JSF. That way when I get hit with a Laser or Radar from a cop car my vehicle is totally Stealth.....
Ya, I'll have it tested in the Anechoic chamber here on base and see if it really works....
For those of you who donít know the Anechoic chamber is the building in Armageddon where they are all being interviewed that has all of egg-crate-mat on the walls. It's also used when they are introduced to that moon walker truck. It's not really a movie set it's Edwards AFBís real Anechoic building.

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Oh, well back to life... back to reality...
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Old 01-24-2001, 04:40 PM   #12
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As for your insurance premiums: They shouldn't go up, since it'll fall under comprehensive. We had some hail damage this past fall. . . no rate hike, just as our agent said. But since repairing the damage will be less than your deductable, there's no real point in letting your insurance company know.
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