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Old 07-02-2019, 09:58 PM   #1
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Question Clear lens headlights

Are there any companies that sell basic style headlights that have clear lenses?

I make my own HID projector headlights, have for all of my past vehicles, and I would love to make some for my recently acquired 98 SL2, but I haven't been able to find many aftermarket options for headlights for them. The fluted style lenses are not very friendly to projector beam patterns unfortunately...

As a DIY'er, for the price, you simply CANNOT beat the light output of a true HID projector retrofit. Sure projector retrofits do look cool and all, but in the end that's not what I would be after with this car. It's a 98 Saturn, she's no show queen lol. I live out in the woods and travel back roads often, and I like to see down the road at night, so I love nothing more than to be able to throw 100+watts of bixenon HID 4300k light in front of me

Any help in the right direction for some clear lens lights would be greatly appreciated




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The only place you will find any clear non prismatic headlights would be eBay and I don't think any exist.
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Old 07-02-2019, 10:57 PM   #3
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Yeah that was the first place I looked and I couldn't find any...

Usually you can find some on there for just about any vehicle, especially older compact 4 door cars, as that's what most highschoolers end up with as a first car, and they tend to "rice" them out with bolt on eBay parts like cheapo headlights and taillights I could care less what kind of LED or halo gimmicks they throw into the headlights, I just want the clear lens off them, even if I have to pay $60 for the darn things! lol
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If you can think of doing it now, 2-3 someones have already done it and at least one has posted either here or on Sixthsphere.com about it...

10-15min in the oven at 250f then some careful prying pops the lenses off the black reflector part (don't forget to remove the metal clips that hold them on until the factory glue sets). Once split it's relatively simple to sand the flutes off.

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Old 07-03-2019, 06:02 PM   #5
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It's not the process of retrofitting, I've got that down as you can see. It's acquiring clear non fluted lenses (without the lines in them) for the retrofit that's the problem, as the lines throw off the beam pattern focus of the projector.

I've seen guys take old school glass headlight lenses and sand and buff the flutting out of them before, VERY labor intensive, but some have had pretty good success. I would imagine that same process could be done to plastic lenses and it would probably be a lot easier, but still time consuming. That may be the path I end up trying.
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Sanding is the only option. As long as you resist the temptation to start with bolder paper it is not too bad of a job.
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Old 07-03-2019, 09:56 PM   #7
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I'm unfamiliar with '98 SL2 headlight assemblies but a simple google search returns many different headlights. I'm presuming you're searching for a new set whether oem or aftermarket to use as a base for gutting part of it to retrofit bi-xenon HID projector assemblies. Your examples converting other vehicles seem flawless with a factory look. Keep searching as perseverance tends to pay off.

I did my own research and found out less (parts) was best to convert from halogen to hid and retain DRLs with low beams. My L300 has projector lights (cutoff plate inside) and the DRL circuit works with one exception - DRL use is full power. I chose 35 watts as a starting point and they've been used for two years. If I get three years from these inexpensive HIDs and one fails, I'll consider going to 55 watts (same as halogens). One issue I'm anticipating is courtesy lighting when dome, parking and low beams cycle on for 30 seconds when getting into the car at night. This short cycles the ballasts when starting up as the headlights cycle off (parking brake engaged).
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Old 07-05-2019, 12:08 PM   #8
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The other option I was thinking was putting the projector in the area where the amble running/turn signal bulb is. It is clear with no fluting lines.

Would need to relocate the turn signal bulb, but in the grand scheme of things that is no huge obstacle.


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Oh, now I understand the difficulty - the lens itself is. No clear lens area for the projector to shine thru without distorting the light bream.
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Old 07-05-2019, 02:33 PM   #10
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If you can find a set of these then you're golden. Good luck!

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That is PRECISELY what I am looking for trottida!

Don't care too much for the blacked out look, would rather the chrome lol, but if I could salvage just the lens I'd be happy.

I found today that I can get OEM style aftermarket lights brand new for $22 each so I may try to butcher a set of those first before I fork over $100 for those. That's assuming those are even still in production any more...


Has anyone ever tried lining up the 2000 body style SL lights on the 98 body SL's and seeing if they would bolt on or look right? They look darn close looking at photos, and they have non fluted lenses. That would be the easy way out
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I happened to have found some on ebay last year and bought them immediately! I haven't seen any of them ever since. I swiftly installed 2.5" projectors. And yes this was for my 1998 SW1

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I have also realized recently that my 98' SL2 has very weak lights. Sorry for hijacking the thread, but could anyone advise fog lights solution? I have holes in the front bumper for them. What would be the most elegant solution? I.e. where to put a switch and relay, etc. Maybe some links where to get bolt-on fog-lights? Thanks!
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I have also realized recently that my 98' SL2 has very weak lights. Sorry for hijacking the thread, but could anyone advise fog lights solution? I have holes in the front bumper for them. What would be the most elegant solution? I.e. where to put a switch and relay, etc. Maybe some links where to get bolt-on fog-lights? Thanks!
I went through the process to wire in OEM fog lights in my second-gen SL2 and can tell you that they don't help with overall light. A member on here, to who I can't remember, made this video of him installing some cheap fog lights in the fog light hole. I'd recommend something better than what he purchased though.

If you can find the same car as yours with fog lights in a junkyard then you should be good, you'd only need to take the wires, housing, and switch from the inside. It shouldn't take anyone more than an hour to get all of it in your own car.
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I went through the process to wire in OEM fog lights in my second-gen SL2 and can tell you that they don't help with overall light. A member on here, to who I can't remember, made this video of him installing some cheap fog lights in the fog light hole. I'd recommend something better than what he purchased though.

If you can find the same car as yours with fog lights in a junkyard then you should be good, you'd only need to take the wires, housing, and switch from the inside. It shouldn't take anyone more than an hour to get all of it in your own car.
You also need the 6 pins and relay from the UHJB as well as the metal brackets for mounting the housings. The wiring from the switch to the UHJB is already there so wiring needed is only from the fog lamps to the UHJB and right ground pack. This is the most elegant solution and you can change out the fog light housings with aftermarket with better light output with a bit of modification.

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I have also realized recently that my 98' SL2 has very weak lights. Sorry for hijacking the thread, but could anyone advise fog lights solution? I have holes in the front bumper for them. What would be the most elegant solution? I.e. where to put a switch and relay, etc. Maybe some links where to get bolt-on fog-lights? Thanks!
If you're going to go with a complete aftermarket solution then I'd wire the fog lamps using the parking light circuit with a relay (switched power source) and fused power to the UHJB positive. No real need for a switch inside the car and they would be on with parking lights, low beams and high beams. It would be good to acquire some OEM fog light brackets too but you can fabricate some.

Another solution would be to change your headlight bulbs to HIR bulbs (9011/9012) or LED which both have more light output. Refurbishing your headlight lenses is also recommended if they are hazy.
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Another solution would be to change your headlight bulbs to HIR bulbs (9011/9012) or LED which both have more light output. Refurbishing your headlight lenses is also recommended if they are hazy.
Thanks, just ordered LED for both low&high beams.
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