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Old 04-16-2007, 07:45 PM   #1
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Default XR in manual paddle shift mode?

I'd like to hear some of the experiences the XR owners here have whille driving in manual mode.

For me, when I upshift, it seems to shift kind of hard after a slow delayed resoponse. When I slow down, it completely downshifts by itself like it's an automatic and I have no control over it.

Has anyone else here have the same things happen? I'd like to have more control over it.

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Old 04-16-2007, 07:58 PM   #2
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Default Re: XR in manual paddle shift mode?

same trouble with my SC2. in third it down shifts by itself and id like to control that when i choose to

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Old 04-16-2007, 08:20 PM   #3
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Default Re: XR in manual paddle shift mode?

I have the same problem, so I don't always use the manual mode. The upshifts are so delayed that I once hit the rev limiter on a 1 - 2 upshift

I also find it is smoother to do a 2nd gear start, even though the car will downshift into 1st below 10 mph and I have to use the paddle to upshift into 2.

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Old 04-16-2007, 08:47 PM   #4
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Default Re: XR in manual paddle shift mode?

No problem here so far. Then again, maybe I'm not pushing my baby hard enough to get these rough jerks. I also have a somewhat of a delay, but my dads BMW had a similar delay in manumatic mode. It is supposed to downshift on its own. It's not a problem.

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Old 04-16-2007, 09:15 PM   #5
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Default Re: XR in manual paddle shift mode?

The XR will automatically shift when RPM's are to high or low, this is in order to protect the transmission.

At first I had the same problems with the hard shifts, I had to re-learn shifting with the 6-speed paddle shifters. I usually drive automatics, can drive four or five speeds, although I think I only driven a 5-speed once.

My advice is to get used to how the Car shifts, experiment a little. Since the XR will shift automatically in order to protect the transmission, just turn off the radio, close the windows and listen to, feel and watch the rpms. I usually shift into second at 10 MPH, 3rd by 20 mph, 4th @ 30 mph, 5th before 40 mph. I may keep it in 5th if I need power to pass. Depending on where I am driving, usually city limits I will shift into 6th once above 40 mph.

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Old 04-16-2007, 11:52 PM   #6
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Your description sounds similar to my experience with manumatic shifting, but it doesn't sound like a "problem" really. The manumatic shifting on the Aura feels exactly the way it did on our Lexus IS 300. There were delays and jerking when we used it too. We always thought it was a gimmick in the Lexus and I still think it is a gimmick in the Aura.

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Old 04-17-2007, 11:27 AM   #7
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Default Re: XR in manual paddle shift mode?

High rev changes will lead to jerkiness due to the speed that the automatic clutch is being asked to work.

I find if you use the manumatic as a manual shift during regular driving (low to medium revs), everything should work quite smoothly, however, if you pile on the revs there is an increased delay from the time you shift until the actual shift and it can be hard (almost like 'dropping the clutch' on a stick shift). I am sure the transmission has been designed to manage this type of activity and, as already been observed, the transmission will change up or down automatically to protect itself from abuse.

Contrary to other opinions, the other manumatic that I have driven (In my previous vehicle. Acura TL Type S) was very smooth during changes, however hard it was being revved, however, it too also had a slight delay during each change, just not as much as the AURA.

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Old 04-17-2007, 08:37 PM   #8
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Default Re: XR in manual paddle shift mode?

The AutoStick on my Eagle Vision TSi was very quick, no lags going up or down. It was great on curved highway exit ramps. Hit the bottom of the ramp at highway speed, steer into the curve, tap down one and use the engine to brake. As the ramp tightened and the car would push out, tap it down another to haul it back in. Usually you were down to just under the regular road speed by the time you reached the top and could put your foot in it, tap up one and merge quite nicely.

I haven't had the opportunity to try that in my XR yet, but I have tried to engine brake by paddle shifting down. I noticed I had to tap it down a couple of gears to get the same braking effect that I got with only 1 tap of my old AutoStick.

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Old 04-18-2007, 02:27 PM   #9
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I also find it is smoother to do a 2nd gear start, even though the car will downshift into 1st below 10 mph and I have to use the paddle to upshift into 2.
Our Hyundai is the same way. It's a 5-speed auto vs. a 6-speed auto, but there's enough power that it can do a 2nd gear start, and the 1-2 upshift has to be done quick in normal driving.

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I noticed I had to tap it down a couple of gears to get the same braking effect that I got with only 1 tap of my old AutoStick.
Probably because of the 4-speed auto in the Vision TSi vs. 6-speeds in the Aura XR.

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Old 04-18-2007, 03:38 PM   #10
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Default Re: XR in manual paddle shift mode?

The other issue I have with the paddle shifters is they disappear when turning right or left as they turn with the wheel, so you can't change gear until the wheel straightens up, this results in over revving in the lower gears.

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Old 04-18-2007, 05:17 PM   #11
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The other issue I have with the paddle shifters is they disappear when turning right or left as they turn with the wheel, so you can't change gear until the wheel straightens up, this results in over revving in the lower gears.
I agree. Somewhat annoying.

Also, I am confused regarding the first shift in manual mode. When I stomp it in first gear and fail to shift before the needle hits the redline rpm, the trans does not shift into 2nd gear automatically. It goes into a freewheeling mode and I must let up on the gas then shift into 2nd. Is this normal?

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