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Old 06-04-2015, 01:10 PM   #1
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Default Fender Doesn't Match?

So after finally getting around to ordering a fender off of another 01 SC2 out of a yard in Indiana, I've put it on. That was quite a pain in the butt actually, because part of the metal frame was bent from where the accident had happened with the previous owner. Moving on...

So now after about a week of driving, I notice the new(ish) fender is a darker red than the rest of my car, especially when sitting in the sun. How is this possible? For this year (and 2002 for that matter) there was only one paint color code: WA9652.

Some have told me that it's because the rest of my paint is faded, or it's even possible that the new(ish) fender has been re-painted. I hope that's not the case!

Many have suggested applying Meguiar's Ultimate Compound or even trying to buff and wax the rest of the car (either by hand or wheel) to try and get the paint to darken to match closer to the fender.

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Old 06-04-2015, 01:19 PM   #2
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The rest of the car is faded pretty bad but that looks to be two different colors.
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Old 06-04-2015, 01:32 PM   #3
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Red is terrible about fading to pink.
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:40 PM   #4
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Red is terrible about fading to pink.
Tell me about it! What's crazy is there is only one paint code for the car though, so how did the match get so far off?

I'm outside (during work hours, lol) trying to Ultimate Compound on it right now by hand with a microfiber pad. I may need a damn buffer to do this. It does seem to be helping, but it's still so far off from the right color.
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:17 PM   #6
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Any way to bring the color back in the rest of the car? By hand is not working...


Do I need to grab a buffer and work at it for a few hours at a time then? Lmao, it's right around $200 for a local shop to paint it. I don't really wanna spend that kind of money on a Saturn fender. I hope I'm not alone in feeling that way.

My personal (secondary) mechanic will paint it for $75 + materials. HOW DO I MATCH THAT? After years of fade...
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Look for color restorer polish in red. Might have to do some googling to find it.
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:31 AM   #8
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Look for color restorer polish in red. Might have to do some googling to find it.
Did some research on that for the past few hours. All that has really come up is Turtle Wax. Either way, it looks like all of these certain waxes will only get rid of the haziness on my clear coat, no matter how hard it's worked. I'm going to give it one more shot with a wheel once I head home.

To actually darken the color of the paint, I would have to remove the clear coat, then wax the paint, then clear coat over it again. Quite a bit of work.

I called my buddies shop (he would be painting the car) and they offered me the complete service for right around $200. Sand, prime, paint, the works. Base coat, clear coat. I'll be bringing in my car later this week (after I get out of work) to see what the "actual" quote will be.

Hopefully it's lower - not higher than what was given over the phone. I figured this was the best route anyways, since the fender does have a few scratches, paint bubbling, and gouges down to the primer, in it.
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Yes, the fender can be painted to match the rest of the car easily.
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Old 06-07-2015, 12:09 AM   #10
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Yes, the fender can be painted to match the rest of the car easily.
Let's hope so. I'll be taking it in to my buddies shop to get a price quote on how much it will cost...hopefully Wednesday.
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I feel your angst. On my '99, before I found car-part.com, I bought a fender off fleabay and had it painted. Not only does the fender not fit exactly right, the color is off (beige). It's not so bad I would redo it, but it bugs me.
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I bought a fender from a junkyard for $15, drove down to a body shop 5 miles away (on the way home: "Hey, that's a body shop!") and they charged $100 to turn it from a medium/light blue to that '97 Green Metallic. They didn't want to do it with the fender off the car but I was like "It's a Saturn, the giant body panel gaps fix minor imperfections like that"

When I had a "Black Gold Metallic" Sl2 I couldn't get a bumper sticker off so I decided to paint over it. Local Napa mix's paint so I went there. Had to get out the chip book because the 1 color code for "Black Gold Metallic" cover's 3 totally different mixtures (varying levels of red and gold flake mostly). That spray can came out perfect too and was a bit under $20 with 6% tax.
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Old 06-07-2015, 02:47 PM   #13
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I got a fender and rear third door skin from pull a part in Indianapolis, sanded primed and painted in one night, next day wet sand and buffed them. Turned out nice but you can tell it was a home job. Honestly I wouldnt pay someone else $200 for what you can do yourself in 1 day really...I couldnt bring myself to spend that much. Oh, and I got the 3rd door skin for $15 cause they didnt even know what it was lol
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The paint on the fender is a lot fresher then the rest of the car that's why the rest of the car is pale red and the fender is gloss red.
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^^^^ Red is the worst for this. It's because of the color spectrum. Sunlight is full-spectum, and in fact goes beyond the visible (to us) spectrum in both directions, both into infra-red (IR) and ultra-violet (UV). Objects appear as a particular color because they reflect that color of light. Likewise, they tend to absorb light that's furthest away from that color in frequency (or wavelength). So as red things reflect red light, they absorb more UV light than other colors that are closer in the spectrum to UV. And it's UV light that's most harmful to paint pigment.

Friends of mine had an old Ford Courier pickup we used to call Pepto-Bismol, for its distinct pink color. The red-to-pink fading was so complete that you'd think it was painted pink -- until you opened the door and saw the bright red on the door jamb.

My '96 is eggplant purple, and when I crashed with a deer in 2006, I replaced the driver's fender, driver side rear door panel and A-pillar trim with same-color parts from a '96 sedan. The quarter panel and two rear roof trim panels came from a '97 wagon in a yard in North Carolina. I also had some paintwork done, following a side-swipe in about 1999 and a key-job (tailgate) in about 2000. Everything matched up after the deer crash, and still looks totally matched. This is because purple, being right next to UV on the spectrum, absorbs much less UV light than other colors.

So you could put that fender in a tanning booth or other source of intense UV light for a while; maybe that will fade it to match the rest of your car (if it doesn't melt....).
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