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Old 06-04-2013, 08:02 PM   #21
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Default Re: Air Conditioning Clutch Electromagnetic coil fix. 2001 SC1

Took out the fuse, need a new one.
ANYONE have a source for it, part number, etc?
I need it yesterday.

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Have a good source to get the fuse?
RadioShack has no clue...

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Old 06-04-2013, 09:21 PM   #22
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The one I took out was a 1 amp, 250 volt, 187 Celsius.
The radio shack one will not fit, too large.
Doesn't anyone know where to get one?

How in the world did you fit the radio shack one in???

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Took out the fuse, need a new one.
ANYONE have a source for it, part number, etc?
I need it yesterday.

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Old 06-04-2013, 10:20 PM   #23
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Default Re: Air Conditioning Clutch Electromagnetic coil fix. 2001 SC1

I didn't think the thermal fuse was replaceable. You will need a new clutch assembly as I don't believe the coil is available by itself.
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Default Re: Air Conditioning Clutch Electromagnetic coil fix. 2001 SC1

Thermal fuses are used in every electric coffee maker, toaster oven, 3-liter hot water heater, etc.. All replaceable. I've replaced a few over the years.

There are electronic supply distributors like Newark Electronics online. Radio Shack may not have a clue because every store is clerked by people of various backgrounds. Some are clueless while others may have technical skills and familiarity with electronic components. Most people will roll theirs eyes if you ask them what a thermal fuse means.

Tried Googling '1 amp 185C thermal fuse'?
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:21 PM   #25
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OK. I didn't see anything that looked like a thermal fuse when I replaced my AC clutch assembly. I thought maybe it was buried in the coil assembly and not serviceable.
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The majority of clutch coils have their thermal fuses buried in the epoxy and rarely blows - reliability as well as design negates the need to make them replaceable as most that do burn out are the result of many other factors like long term wear on the clutch plate/pulley that widens the gap, over filling a system that creates higher than normal operating pressures that equates to higher discharge temperatures, and using sealer for those looking for instant repairs. No one has ever posted of a blown clutch coil within car warranty, its always been long after many years of use. The recent posts of a few here with fuses in the open for easy (relatively speaking) replacement are the exceptions. These posts are no guarantee to anyone that a blown clutch coil is repairable with a fuse replacement, as you found out. Its already difficult for anyone attempting to disassemble a compressor.......................
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It is easy to miss...a little trap door that does not appear to come off..it will, reluctantly...in pieces usually I hear. Epoxy it back on after pulling the fuse.
Getting the new fuse is the challenge...none of the usual sources has panned out, searches, etc., nothing. Any larger thermal fuse is physically too large as well.
The existing coil leads are in one groove, and the fuse, or wire, lies in thensecond groove...There are two little pinch pins which tap in over the wires to link them together, snap or glue the dust cap back over them, put the coil back in with the three screws, then the pulley and keeper ring, then the putter clutch plate with the single 10mm bolt.
I just put the LED wire on for now...see how long that lasts.
Where is the clutch assembly available for purchase by itself? Probably less trouble.


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RadioShack has no clue...
What keeps those guys in business?

I usually go to Allied for stuff like this . . .
http://www.alliedelec.com/search/pro...x?SKU=70214794
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Real electronic parts come from real electronic supply houses, try MOUSER. RadioShack has most common parts but not the parts that are not commonly used in DIY circuitry.
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Where is the clutch assembly available for purchase by itself? Probably less trouble.
I found mine on Amazon. I believe that one is for a 2000-2002 S-series.

http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-210313..._gw_p_t_1_HRE9
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I found mine on Amazon. I believe that one is for a 2000-2002 S-series.

http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-210313..._gw_p_t_1_HRE9
I see rockauto also has it right now...
But, the LED wire is holding for now.
I think what caused the failure was inactivity over the winter. I found the plates pretty rusted and worn. I smmthed them and removed the rust. Works,Moran it for about 20 minutes, shut down...felt the clutch and not hot by any means. I think the plates were overworking the coil.

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I will try Nec Microtemp thermal cutoff 1A 150
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^ Are you sure you are buying the correct thermal fuse? ^ 1 amp/150(C) does not seem correct (undersize).
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Honestly I bought also a 2A Tf 187 but I am not sure to have enough space to fix it. The original fuse was an UMI 1A 250V Tf187 impossible to find for me.

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A 187C t-fuse is rated for 369F. A 150C t-fuse is rated for 302F. You can Google for anything if you search carefully. Just remember, what you repair is acceptance of all risks (revisiting this repair again if wrong) whether the parts you use are correct or not.
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Anybody know where I can get the fuse? I have taken it apart and the fuse is the problem.
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Old 09-19-2021, 10:07 PM   #37
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my fuse went bad, i replaced it with a piece of welding wire from a mig welder. after 20 yrs, it probably just fatigued.
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The coil was bad on my car when I bought it. I just got a coil & clutch off a junkyard car vs trying to repair the old one. The A/C amazingly worked fine after replacing it, didn't need to add any refrigerant or anything & it's been around a year & a half since I fixed it & it luckily still works fine.
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