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Old 03-02-2010, 04:25 AM   #1
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:52 AM   #2
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Is it known if Ions will be included in this recall? The Cobalt was based on the Ion and they share (or shared) engines and other parts, right? I have an '07 Ion 2 that's just about to go out of warranty @ 36K miles.

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Old 03-02-2010, 10:42 AM   #3
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I sincerely hope that this recall is expanded to include the ION. The Cobalt/G5 and the ION use the same part number for their power steering motors, so the safety issue should also cover the ION. I have no idea why GM wouldn't recall the ION as well...it feels to me like GM is just trying to avoid recalling more vehicles

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Old 03-02-2010, 10:48 AM   #4
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nope, had you read the linked page, you'd have seen ions are not included, at least according to the press release. I'm looking into getting the ion added if it isn't already. they are avoiding admitting saturns exist, nothing else, IMO.

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Old 03-02-2010, 11:01 AM   #5
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2006, I read the story at the link as well as several other sources. I thought I might have missed some information somewhere and this would be the place to find it. I wish you success in getting the Ion added to the recall.

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Old 03-02-2010, 11:08 AM   #6
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unfortunately I do not think anyone missed anything saturn customer assistance's automated recall system says we are not under recall, I;m on the phone with a rep. right now to make sure before going over GM's heads.

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Old 03-02-2010, 11:12 AM   #7
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There needs to be a push by the former and current ION owners who have had issues with their power steering to get the ION added to the recall. The NHTSA needs to hear that we are having the same problem. We also need to stress that the Cobalt and the ION use the EXACT SAME power steering motor part numbers, making it obvious that the ION should be included. The more I think about this, the more irritated I get with GM. It amazes me that because the ION is no longer for sale GM seems to think that they can just ignore its existence, even though we have the same steering system as the Cobalt/G5.

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Old 03-02-2010, 11:19 AM   #8
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saturn customer assistance confirmed it. call NHTSA at 888-327-4236 to make our case/cars known. until you make complaints (I can't since my car isn't affected) our cars will not be added to the list.

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Old 03-02-2010, 12:31 PM   #9
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was this part used on 05-06 Ions only or was it used for the 03-04 as well?

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Old 03-02-2010, 12:35 PM   #10
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all ions, 03-07, all cobalts and G5s/pursuits/G4s

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:05 PM   #11
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I would still like to find out what the fix is? Not much info on the recall. Are they throwing the same old parts at it or is it more of a computer upgraded to warn you of an impending failure.

Still wondering what differentiates the Saturn from the Pontiac and Chevy EPS system. Part numbers may be the same but there are computers attached to each of these systems.

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:51 PM   #12
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the BCMs are the same as far as I know, and that's all that I think is connected to the EPS. the EPS column/motor/control unit are an assembly and as far as the community knows, the same part number.

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:57 PM   #13
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I am assuming that they are replacing the EPS motors with a new, redesigned part based on this article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gm_recall

That article mentions JTEKT, which is the company that was the original supplier of the EPS motors for the ION and Cobalt/G5. I would guess that GM is simply waiting on the new redesigned parts to arrive before they start sending out letters to owners.

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Old 03-02-2010, 02:02 PM   #14
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they are a news company, they don't necessarily have the terminology right, but thanks for the link.

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Old 03-02-2010, 02:21 PM   #15
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Contact the NHTSA to get the Ion added to the recall. Its bull that the Ion, which the Cobalt came from, is not listed. I've known lots of people with Ion's who's electric steering failed and they had to pay out of pocket. GM has known about this for awhile. Do they think because Saturn is no more that they don't have to worry about it?

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Old 03-02-2010, 02:49 PM   #16
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while you are all complaining to the NHTSA, complain about the ignition switches and CVT transmissions, lets hit GM where it hurts.

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the assembly is P/N 19200757

hmm, this is apparently not the chevy P/N, though

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the assembly is P/N 19200757

hmm, this is apparently not the chevy P/N, though
looked that part number up on saturnparts.com and it states it was superceded by p/n 19209137. the p/n you posted does not appear in the Chevy catalog but that newer revised number I found appears at both the Chevy parts site and the Saturn parts site. Not sure if that newer number is the very newest part that is meant to fix this recall campaign though.

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I got the number from a saturn parts counter. if your part number works, we'll use it.

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its actually saturnparts.net

Can't post links yet, account too new

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