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Old 01-03-2011, 01:18 PM   #1
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Default Hard Shifting into Reverse

hi all
i don't get to drive the astra much as it's my wife's but when she complains of something i get to check it out.

in the last couple months the astra has been increasingly difficult to get into reverse.i thought it might have been a temperature thing ,but it did this when ambient is 20c or -7c
and the car can be hot or cold.
driving it for a while does not affect it either,still grinds.

it grinds every time.like the reverse syncro is gone.
we both drive standards(4 out of our last 5 saturns) so the clutch is fine and i have removed the floor mats just to make sure that they were not letting the clutch pedal fully disengage.

the problem still exists.

anyone have this problem and what was the dealers response to it.
we still have 20,000kms left on the bumper to bumper but don't want the dealer copping out that we have done something to the clutch and it's not covered.
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:22 PM   #2
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There is no syncro to be gone.

The manual transmission in the Astra does not have a revese syncro. You must be stopped and the clutch pushed in for a second(manual says 3 but that is a bit much) before shifting into gear. Small annoyance but you get used to it.

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Old 01-03-2011, 05:48 PM   #3
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I had the same problem. Just as long as you put it into second gear then into reverse you will be fine. And it's honestly not annoying. It a millisecond extra of your time.

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Old 01-03-2011, 07:09 PM   #4
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Default Re: Hard Shifting into Reverse

Same here, its normal to grind, nothing is broken.

I just throw it into 1st gear, then reverse and I have no problems.

It's kinda annoying at first, but now I do it without thinking.

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Old 01-03-2011, 11:51 PM   #5
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Same here, its normal to grind, nothing is broken.

I just throw it into 1st gear, then reverse and I have no problems.

It's kinda annoying at first, but now I do it without thinking.
ditto, sometimes i forget and it grinds on me, and im like WTF, opps, mybad.... lol

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Old 01-05-2011, 09:50 PM   #6
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ditto, sometimes i forget and it grinds on me, and im like WTF, opps, mybad.... lol
Same here.

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Old 01-08-2011, 01:22 PM   #7
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Default Re: Hard Shifting into Reverse

I go into 2nd before reverse, too. Be sure to let service people know when having your car worked on. I put a little note on the steering wheel.

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Old 11-04-2011, 01:11 PM   #8
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Does anyone have an update to this problem. Recently purchased an Astra with 52K and I have an extended warranty on it. Is there something I can do to be rid of this problem and is there any mods to the system since the last posts.

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Old 11-04-2011, 03:33 PM   #9
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almost 60k on it now ,still does it and does no seem to be any worse.

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Old 11-28-2011, 03:25 PM   #10
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that is how these transmissions shift when going into reverse. this is not uncommon.

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Old 11-28-2011, 10:18 PM   #11
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I had the same problem. Just as long as you put it into second gear then into reverse you will be fine. And it's honestly not annoying. It a millisecond extra of your time.
I have not tried that before... I will next time. I usually only use reverse when Is start off, so I go ahead and just keep the clutch in during the whole start up and don't get the grind.

The getrag in my mini had at least a basic synco in reverse. That was nice.

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Old 11-29-2011, 01:22 AM   #12
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I had the same problem. Just as long as you put it into second gear then into reverse you will be fine. And it's honestly not annoying. It a millisecond extra of your time.
Thank you, Sir. Mine was grinding all the time but now I never have an issue with it.

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Old 11-30-2011, 10:08 AM   #13
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Default Re: Hard Shifting into Reverse

Same here, quite embarrassing first time it happened in a public parking lot

But like people say, No syncro, Second gear, then reverse; and all is good.

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Old 12-01-2011, 06:48 PM   #14
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Default Re: Hard Shifting into Reverse

this should be in a faq. Anyone that has has old Volkswagen have the same things happen. What I used to do is stick it in first gear (with the clutch in of course) and then go into reverse. You'll never have any grinding again.

mechanic told me it has something to do with the syncros lining up and putting the car in 1st or 2nd gives it the time to line up?

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