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Old 03-12-2012, 09:40 PM   #1
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so i am currently in Chicago, IL. I was browsing craigslist sunday and found a 99 saturn SC2 5 speed with 179000 miles on it for 800 obo. i called the guy and told him ill give him 500 bucks for it if it runs decent. in the ad was saying clutch oil leaked. so i went there test drove it and it was hard shifting into gears. it was drivable and motor ran strong. i was impressed. i had a 95 saturn SL1 before and i missed it so i wanted the saturn. so i went up to the atm to take money out and could only pull 380 out so i was like fux it ill try and offer him that and see if he will take it. well he took it and i drove it home fine. i was extremely happy. next day went to take to shop to try and see what exactly was wrong with it. on my way up there the clutch oil leaked or burned all up, so it was stuck in 2nd gear the rest of my trip couldnt stop or it would stall so at a light i would shut car off and start it in 2nd. mind u i am flying passed stop signs cutting ppl off cuz i wanted to stop as little as possible so it was a fun, heart pumping, crazy driving experience. if i wasnt so daring and a adrenaline junkie i woulda had a heart attack. and if u know streets of chicago u know its nuts. so i finnally got to the shop, everyone lookin at me like that doesnt sound too good when i shut it off. so i give them the keys gave em my number and left waited for the phone call. i get it a hour later. this guy is telling me its not the right trans for this car someone put the wrong trans in and clutch and the mechanic was askin me how i was able to drive it. he actually didnt want any part of fixing it and tells me its not worth fixing save my money and get another car. i said fux that i knew another shop that this guy will attemt to fix anything. so heres round 2 of driving it in 2nd gear flying past anything i could and driving like a maniac. in front of the police and everything i didnt give a fux and neither did they apparently. so i get there tell him what this other mechanic said and he called me back saying well u need a new clutch, cylinder, and a rebuilt trans and with labor he would charge me 1300 total. now i bought the car for 380 bucks should i quadruple my investment to save this saturn or junk it. it has no body damage and is black with a nice motor in it. any suggestions from anybody feel free to reply. thanks

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Old 03-12-2012, 09:47 PM   #2
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If you have the space, try to sell the parts and minimize your losses.

You know the saying, "If it sounds too good to be true..."

Thanks for the story - it convinces me why I refuse to buy a used vehicle from a stranger.

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Old 03-12-2012, 10:06 PM   #3
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I disagree, TX. This is exactly the vehicle I'm looking for. One quick stop in my garage and several hours later (along with whatever parts I need), I have a running saturn. Saturns are remarkable in their ability to bounce back after years of neglect. Everything is replaceable on these cars.. so everything can be restored.

OP - If you bought a car for $400, you should expect to do some major repairs. YDI if you are trying to pay a shop to do it!

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Old 03-12-2012, 10:18 PM   #4
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I disagree, TX. This is exactly the vehicle I'm looking for.
Yeah, but he is not you. The OP can correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't appear the OP is as knowledgeable at repairs and/or willing to do the work himself as you. The advice should be suited in the direction of the OP.

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Old 03-12-2012, 10:27 PM   #5
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Default Re: craigslist deal of a lifetime gone bad!!!!

If the only issue is with the trans, someone that knows what they're doing can fix it for less than $500. I'm curious how it could have the wrong trans, when either S-Series manual trans should work fine, and a non-S-Series trans is unlikely to even bolt up properly. Take some pix of where the trans meets the engine, cuz if it is a non-S-Series trans, that'd be interesting to see. But yeah, if it's just the trans, either learn how to fix it yourself & spend a few hundred bucks at the pick-n-pull, or sell it to someone who will.

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Old 03-12-2012, 10:33 PM   #6
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Someone put a defective clutch in it and that translates to transmission for the unknowing. One LUK clutch and its probably fixed.

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Old 03-12-2012, 11:28 PM   #7
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It could also be the shifter cable or the connections at the tranny! OP - does the car shift properly when the engine is OFF and the clutch pedal left alone? If so, the problem is clutch. If not, it's possibly the shifter cable or where it connects to the tranny. This could be an easy fix yet.

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Old 03-12-2012, 11:33 PM   #8
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Could also be someone dumped gear oil into the transmission. Anyway you slice it it is a simple fix.

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Old 03-13-2012, 07:39 AM   #9
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If you lived a little closer to me, I'd give you 500 for it for your troubles. Like the others are saying , its probably a few hours and a few hundred bones and its back to life. Im sure with the people here on this forum, you can fix it yourself.

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Old 03-13-2012, 09:11 AM   #10
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Usually people that buy vehicles very cheap plan to do much of the work themselves... although, I'll admit, w/o a lift in my garage I really wouldn't want to even attempt tackling a transmission swap.

The above said, $1300 doesn't seem bad, esp. considering this is Chicago... what you could do, however, is attempt to source some of the parts yourself and just ask mechanic how much he'd charge for labor. Possibly some other Saturn owner in your area has a good used manual tranny that he'd like to sell for less than half the price of a rebuilt. Then again, if you don't have a truck and no way to transport this stuff, then back to the beginning... as long as the engine and exhaust are good, and the body is in reasonably good condition, then under $2K for a 99 SC2 doesn't seem like a bad deal (if you plan to keep it).

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There is no such thing as clutch oil. Perhaps the clutch _hydraulics_ failed? Does the clutch fail to disengage? This could be something as simple as a $120 hydraulics replacement, doable with hand tools in the driveway. What specific evidence did the shop provide for their "wrong trans" claim?

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Old 03-13-2012, 09:40 AM   #12
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if you have a driveway do it yourself, if you can only park in street, well that sux to be u, honestly i hate the idea of living in a big city like this for that reason and more.

ive done a tranny, its so easy.

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Old 03-13-2012, 09:43 AM   #13
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If you have the space, try to sell the parts and minimize your losses.

You know the saying, "If it sounds too good to be true..."

Thanks for the story - it convinces me why I refuse to buy a used vehicle from a stranger.
perfectly workings saturns do sell for 400$ on ebay still these days, u just gotta be good at buying stuff off there.

i would know i bought one, three years and no major problems, just 2 tires, leaky water pump, a clutch that sucked-lasted a year(it was some stupid rice clutch), and oil.

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perfectly workings saturns do sell for 400$ on ebay still these days, u just gotta be good at buying stuff off there.

i would know i bought one, three years and no major problems, just 2 tires, leaky water pump, a clutch that sucked-lasted a year(it was some stupid rice clutch), and oil.
4 good tires and 4 wheels are worth a few hundred, so the idea of getting a good Saturn off eBay for $400 is questionable... although possible, I guess,... but how are you "good at buying stuff off there?" I've looked on eBay for many things and complex things like cars are a minefield if you bid on one with out actually seeing it/ test driving it. eBay is loaded with scams and used car dealers selling stuff on eBay because they can't sell it in person.

I personally like the idea of Craigslist and buying closer to home... where you can test drive the vehicles.

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If you can't fix it yourself, part it out and scrap the rest.You should be able to break even with what you spent.

This is one example of why I will NEVER buy a vehicle off CL!! CL has become a place where everyone just sells their garbage!!

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CL has become a place where everyone just sells their garbage!!
Not everyone!

I sold a 2001 SL1 to a guy a couple months ago... then he called me a month later and said the water pump was leaking. I told him to bring it back over and I replaced it for $20. He was ecstatic.

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4 good tires and 4 wheels are worth a few hundred, so the idea of getting a good Saturn off eBay for $400 is questionable... although possible, I guess,... but how are you "good at buying stuff off there?" I've looked on eBay for many things and complex things like cars are a minefield if you bid on one with out actually seeing it/ test driving it. eBay is loaded with scams and used car dealers selling stuff on eBay because they can't sell it in person.

I personally like the idea of Craigslist and buying closer to home... where you can test drive the vehicles.
im saying over three years all ive done is two tires a water pump clutch and oil, like 400 in maintainance a year

plus I'm talking about buying a saturn on craigslist not ebay, I got lucky, the guy was a mechanic that put a 60,000 mile engine in the 160k shell and bought a new car, cause his satty was too small for his kids and he really needed to get rid of it. his post said 600 but he sold it for 400 just so id buy it, and I knew how to work on saturns, i was like whatever, a saturns a saturn, that car runs like its brand new still.

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This is one example of why I will NEVER buy a vehicle off CL!! CL has become a place where everyone just sells their garbage!!
So, where else would you buy a 15 year old used car that needs repairs? Craigslist and ebay are about it. Unless you would prefer to buy an overpriced used car from a dealer. I will take my chances with craigslist over a dealer anyday.

I dont see craigslist any different than buying from the classifieds section in the newspaper. Thats how it was done before the internet. As always, its buyer beware, no matter where you buy your car from. The key is to know what your buying and what its worth, and what your willing to spend in time and money to get it in the condition you want.

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+1^^True statement. And CL dos not get ink on your fingers. But you can not line the puppy kennel or bird cage with CL either. It is all a trade off.

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Thanks for the story - it convinces me why I refuse to buy a used vehicle from a stranger.
And why we don't buy cars that are worth a few Franklins, people.

+1 on the parts suggestion though. I wonder how the titling process worked out..

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+1^^True statement. And CL dos not get ink on your fingers. But you can not line the puppy kennel or bird cage with CL either. It is all a trade off.
Not unless you printed off each ad you saw there and ripped it up...

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