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Old 07-31-2019, 01:42 PM   #21
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Are you trying for a straight replacement, or are you trying to adapt a different steering wheel to your car?

96-99 S-series steering wheels should be a straight swap. I think 95 works also but not 100% sure. Body style (sedan, coupe, wagon) all used the same steering wheel.

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Old 07-31-2019, 03:43 PM   #22
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I was looking to adapt to a completely different wheel I know that other saturn wheels are compatible but my issue is the problem is I can't find a proper adapter and most peoples listings seem to be wrong because they show the spline type steering rod connection rather than the DD type that is actually in the car. In my eyes there wouldn't be too much of a point getting a oem replacement because my airbag plug is melted and honestly I don't have much faith in a safety system that's about 20 years old, no longer manufactured, and that went off for no reason in the first place.

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Old 08-02-2019, 10:42 AM   #23
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my issue is the problem is I can't find a proper adapter and most peoples listings seem to be wrong because they show the spline type steering rod connection rather than the DD type that is actually in the car.
Those spline-type are probably meant for first-gen cars ('91-94, maybe 95?). I never owned/ worked on one, so not sure.

Maybe swapping in parts of the steering column from a first gen might be a solution? Again, I have never worked on any first gens, so this is just speculation. Might not fit or be possible.

There was a little aftermarket support in the early years of Saturn S series but after a few years, that started fading. Support is mostly gone these days, as the newest S series is over a decade and a half old.

You could also follow instructions here and see if the Saturn fits a GM standard size (see attachment pic):
https://m.roadkillcustoms.com/how-to...x-spline-size/

Could be that you could use a generic adapter or one meant for another car, based on the size.
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]In my eyes there wouldn't be too much of a point getting a oem replacement because my airbag plug is melted and honestly I don't have much faith in a safety system that's about 20 years old, no longer manufactured, and that went off for no reason in the first place.
Since it's not a Takata, my guess is you had a short, broken wire, clock spring, etc., that caused it. This is the first time in about a decade that I've heard of a random airbag fire in the S series.
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Old 08-04-2019, 03:08 PM   #24
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I'm sure you're right that may be possible and I can definitely tell there wasn't/isnt too many aftermarket parts but they are out there, just nothing that will majorly increase your performance unless you go all out and get the engine overbored and or sleeved or if you go from sohc to dohc but even then its not that much of a boost, from what I can tell people who have performance saturn's have put quite a bit of custom fabrication to make things work...im getting off topic but I'm going to try my initial thought im still waiting on the part to show up, i'll let you know how it goes.

I'm actually a bit relieved to find out that airbag malfunctions don't happen all that often so if I ever decide the custom wheel was dumb or if I blatantly have no luck in my adaption ventures I may just wire up a new pug and see if I can find a refurbished bag.

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Old 09-30-2019, 07:09 PM   #25
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I rarely do things for look and feel alone, but I'm now looking at putting a proper old school wood/chrome or similar steering wheel in place. Like OP, I have little faith in air bags, and have had friends get hurt from their deployment. I disabled air bags in an Astro van and was able to survive three separate deer hits and keep going after each of them. After fixing the cosmetics the thing still runs. I've had better luck with Saturns and only hit two deer, with no airbag impact. I want the airbags gone, and really don't like the look and feel of an airbag wheel at all.

I'm thinking of buying an adapter or if necessary making one out of the center part of a standard S-series wheel. Has anyone cut, jigged, and welded this to a plate with appropriate holes for typical aftermarket wheel?

The next thing would be to deal with the excess controls around the column. I want to keep the cruise control functions, but there's no reason for them to rotate with the wheel.

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Old 10-11-2019, 04:21 PM   #26
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I have returned the adapters I found all didnt work so I wound up taking a machining class and made up my own to work with one of the 6 bolt adapters
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I almost drilled a couple holes for my cruise control but I dropped it and the old plastic broke apart so I gave up on that idea but its definitely possible but I do recommend if anyone makes one to make a clock spring gap your turn signals and horn wont work properly without it unless you personally modify the wiring same deal with the cruise control it has to rotate with the clock spring because the wire come out of it but again if you modified the wiring it could work

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Old 10-11-2019, 04:39 PM   #27
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on another note I took a bunch of measurements for this so if anyone else cares to go the same route I did I can post the measurements and tool sizes used upon request

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