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Old 07-02-2003, 11:56 PM   #1
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I just discovered this site. Very informative. My car is a fully loaded 2003 L300.

Since I've had my L300, I've noticed that my front chrome wheels attract a lot of brake dust. In order to keep them clean, I have to wash my wheels 2-3 times a week. There is so much brake dust that I have to wash my wheels in the street to keep from staining my driveway.

Do I have inferior brake pads, or are chrome wheels a magnet for brake dust?

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Old 07-03-2003, 12:24 AM   #2
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nope all L's have that prob... the reason is, the Break pads are very tough and thats both ur brakes and rotors that are creating the dust.. Found this out from a Saturn Tech.

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Old 07-03-2003, 09:10 AM   #3
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My 2003 L200 also has a ton of brake dust on the front alloy wheels. I mentioned this to the Saturn sales consultant recently because he asked if there was anything I didn't like about the car. He said that this is because the brake pads are new and that the dust will go away when they are older. I was thinking, "Yeah, the brake dust will go away when the brake pads are due for a replacement!"

Anyway, my advice is to clean the wheels really good and then apply car wax to them so that they'll be easier to clean the next time.

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Old 07-03-2003, 09:54 AM   #4
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That is a good idea i never thought of that.

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Old 07-03-2003, 10:13 AM   #5
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The pads/rotors on these cars are designed such that they wear somewhat evenly with one another.

This setup makes for great braking, but lots of dust.

Also, the rotors will most likely need to be replaced with the brake pads ($$$$).

It's a German thing I believe (Remember our car is an incarnation of the Opel Vectra). Look at any BMW/Merc, their wheels will always be covered with thick black dust just a day after they were washed.

Saturn Motorsports has some perf. rotor/pads pads for our cars that promise less dust, but I'm not convinced yet that the dust is that much of a pain as I'm overall impressed with the L's stock brakes.

http://www.saturnmotorsports.com/sto...sp?prodtype=60

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Old 07-03-2003, 11:26 AM   #6
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Not just L, I see the same front-wheel blackening on IONs and VUEs too......

Either keep washing the wheels or switch to Ceramic pads in next replacement.

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Old 07-03-2003, 12:05 PM   #7
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Not just L, I see the same front-wheel blackening on IONs and VUEs too......

Either keep washing the wheels or switch to Ceramic pads in next replacement.
My VUE has very little brake dust on the front wheels. The L is a different story. They get very dirty pretty fast. I see that many other vehicle have the same problem including the Mercedes SUV.

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Old 07-03-2003, 12:07 PM   #8
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You mean my wheels aren't Gray? I agree with Socketz, the pads might dust like nothing else, but they work pretty good.

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Old 07-03-2003, 12:20 PM   #9
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My brother-in-law just bought a 2003 Jaguar X . He has the brake dust problem too.

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Old 07-03-2003, 02:38 PM   #10
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Saturn Motorsports has some perf. rotor/pads pads for our cars that promise less dust, but I'm not convinced yet that the dust is that much of a pain as I'm overall impressed with the L's stock brakes.

http://www.saturnmotorsports.com/sto...sp?prodtype=60
Thanks for that info, I'll have to call them and ask whether or not those are the Powerslot brand. I had the Powerslots on my SL2 and those warped within 4000 miles - and the WERE properly broken in the 1st 2000 miles.

I've contemplated ordering the Zimmermann cross-drilled rotors (for Saab 9-5's). I'm curious whether those will fit, but I haven't heard too much feedback about those. I would prefer to go with Brembo because of the quality, but they don't make slotted or cross-drilled for us.

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Old 07-03-2003, 08:07 PM   #11
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Call it one of the perks. lol

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Old 07-03-2003, 11:11 PM   #12
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When it does come time to replace the brake pads, you will probably want to consider some non-OEM ones. In the mean time, you might try a product like this:

http://waxdepot.safeshopper.com/45/234.htm?992

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Old 07-04-2003, 11:41 AM   #13
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Make sure you keep your schome clads clean, also. The brake dust can and will burn itself into your wheels. I cannot cont how many times we have had to replace wheels on a delivery because of the front ones being burnt.
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Old 07-07-2003, 07:33 AM   #14
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Yikes, it ruins the Chrome...

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Old 07-07-2003, 07:27 PM   #15
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No, it ruins the schome... err.. Chrome... I really need to proofread posts before I click submit.
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Old 08-04-2003, 12:48 PM   #16
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Heard something yesterday on a radio show about a "dustless pad."
Seems that Raybestos makes one called "QuietStop".
Anybody know about these?
Do they have any for the L-series? Costs?

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Old 08-04-2003, 02:41 PM   #17
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I can drive my 4Runner for a week and there is barely any dust on the wheels. Car stops on a dime (as compared to other SUVs), so it's not like they compromised on rotor/shoe composition.

Could it have something to do with the way the wheels ventilate ? Maybe the dust drops to the ground on this car vs. how all of it sticks to the wheel on the L.

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Old 08-06-2003, 01:40 PM   #18
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Sad Chrome wheel quality

I have 3-month old L200 full loaded with Chrome wheel. Now I have only 2600 miles on it. But I found In the front wheel chrome, there are a lot of peel off. Do you have the save issues? I think this is a quality problem, will talk to the dealer when I do the first service.

By the way, next car I will choose alloy wheel in stead of chrome wheel.

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Old 08-06-2003, 02:17 PM   #19
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"By the way, next car I will choose alloy wheel in stead of chrome wheel."

Chrome (using nickel and chromium rods to bond chrome to a steel or aluminum wheel) wheels are fine.

The wheels you have are not actually chromed, but alloy wheels with a plastic 'chromed' cover. Take a look at them close up.

Alot of manufactures have started to do this in an effort to add a cool looking/popular feature at minimal cost.

True chromed wheels are very exspensive.

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My '01 had lots of dust also, but after about 10k mi. it seems to let up quite a bit.

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