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Old 10-10-2012, 01:57 PM   #21
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Also, I looked through the other timing belt threads, and I couldn't spot a pic of where the water pump is.

Is it somewhere in the exploded view of post #11?
Here's a thumbnail for water pump (item 300) ... you can also look at post 11 thumbnail to locate pump drive pulley.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:24 PM   #22
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Here's a thumbnail for water pump (item 300) ... you can also look at post 11 thumbnail to locate pump drive pulley.
ok, thanks. now I see why it's part of the timing belt replacement process.
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I should have asked earlier, but is there anything blocking access to that cam cover that has to be removed first?
I doubt if the typical seller would feel comfortable with multiple parts of their engine being pulled off to view a belt.
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Old 10-10-2012, 05:43 PM   #24
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...The airfilter box, then 4 bolts around the cover and 1 in the lower center, then the cover just pops off,you'll see the rubber gasket come off with the cover as part of it, no sealant. I have a K&N intake and had to remove that to remove forward cover , hope that helps, DC
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I should have asked earlier, but is there anything blocking access to that cam cover that has to be removed first?
I doubt if the typical seller would feel comfortable with multiple parts of their engine being pulled off to view a belt.
If I was a private seller you would not get a wrench on the car until you bought it and paid for it.

The water pump is under the timing belt covers driven by the timing belt. It is the pulley near the top of the engine at the valley between the heads.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:39 PM   #26
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If I was a private seller you would not get a wrench on the car until you bought it and paid for it.

The water pump is under the timing belt covers driven by the timing belt. It is the pulley near the top of the engine at the valley between the heads.
Thanks for the info on the water pump.

As far as the cam cover goes, with something as potentially major as the timing belt issue is, if i'm not verifying the belt has been changed, i'm looking elsewhere.

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Old 10-10-2012, 10:07 PM   #27
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As far as the cam cover goes, with something as potentially major as the timing belt issue is, if i'm not verifying the belt has been changed, i'm looking elsewhere.

Speaking as someone with a Vue that's kinda sorta for sale right now, the minute a potential buyer started wanting to tear my car apart is the minute I'd stop dealing with them.

There's a chance they're just being thorough, but on an inexpensive vehicle it's not worth the time to let them fool around with it. The reality is, more than likely they're just crazy people that aren't capable or competent enough to do the job correctly anyways, and if they screw it up, its unlikely they're going to pony and buy the car that they broke, especially not at the previous asking price.

If I was you, I'd just figure in replacing the timing belt and such if you're that worried about it.
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Speaking as someone with a Vue that's kinda sorta for sale right now, the minute a potential buyer started wanting to tear my car apart is the minute I'd stop dealing with them.

There's a chance they're just being thorough, but on an inexpensive vehicle it's not worth the time to let them fool around with it. The reality is, more than likely they're just crazy people that aren't capable or competent enough to do the job correctly anyways, and if they screw it up, its unlikely they're going to pony and buy the car that they broke, especially not at the previous asking price.

If I was you, I'd just figure in replacing the timing belt and such if you're that worried about it.
So you'd buy a Vue with enough miles that the belt is scheduled for replacement, and whose owner claims the belt was replaced, and then turn around and potentially replace it for the 2nd time?

This isn't pulling a computer out, or a radio, or unbolting seats to see if the mounts are sturdy, or anything else equally ridiculous. It's a cover on a cam shaft that has a neo gasket.
I know this, because I was told so in this very thread.
If this was the equivalent of pulling valve covers, i'd just find one that's due for replacement and pay accordingly.

Everyone can do business as they please, including me. If I can't verify it, i'm not buying it.
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Is this a private seller who has the one you're looking at? You could always ask where it was done, and verify with the garage that they did indeed do the work.
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Is this a private seller who has the one you're looking at? You could always ask where it was done, and verify with the garage that they did indeed do the work.
It all went well and i'm the proud owner of a 2007 Vue.

As far as the garage goes, I actually did call. I could barely understand the guy, and he couldn't remember what parts he replaced.
Which is sort of understandable, but it just reinforced me wanting to see the belt with my own eyes.
When I asked the owner if I could check the belt, I made a point of mentioning that he could ask the mechanic if he thought it was ok to pull the cam cover. He (the owner) didn't have any problem with it.

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Thanks to the people on this thread for the info. I just purchased an '07 Vue with 140K miles to pull behind my RV. Service was pretty detailed on carfax, and had been well maintained, however no mention of the timing belt change. So, this morning I followed the instructions and the belt was in great shape with all lettering visible, so I am deducting that it was changed. Thanks!
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Just bumping this thread to add that when the guy showed up with the Vue, in the glove box was a receipt for the belt replacement. He could have mentioned that on the phone, lol.
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I always take a dated picture after replacing the belt. Leaves no doubt.

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I'm getting ready to attempt something similar to my 02 Vue with the 3.0L -- According to Chilton's, You pretty much have to remove everything including the Water pump to get to the timing cover, I'm hoping once I remove the engine mount and a couple of bolts, I'll be able to pry open the top part of the cover and see the belt. If anybody has any ideas, I'm all ears.

Looks like the Honda has separate covers whereas the 3.0L has one large cover that takes care of both cam shafts. I plan to replace the belt in the spring, But for now just want some peace of mind, it has 150,000 on the engine and it went through 2 previous owners and actually has pretty good service records both owners kept in the back of the owners manual (Mostly Oil Changes, brakes etc..) nothing about a timing belt replacement, But CarFax listed Service done around 100,000, But no details.

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TJB63, early Vues share the same 3.0L V6 with L300s except the upper intake manifold. Mine has a pretty painted three piece intake system consisting of a pair of runners and main intake in the center of the engine. The throttle assembly bolts to this center. Other than the intake system, the mechanicals are the same. The water pump and power steering pump pulleys are removed along with belt tensioner and engine mount before the one piece timing cover is accessible for removal. I have a hard plastic wire loom running across the front of my timing cover - removing several torx screws and moving this out of the way leaves the timing cover ready for removal. You might be able to find snapshots of either Vues or L300s showing the timing belt.

Once the timing cover is off, you'll be able to replace the water pump. Pump, timing belt and three idler pulleys are replaced as recommended for the 100k mile maintenance interval. Shop around for prices of timing belt kits as they vary greatly. Rockauto is great for shopping as well as eBay. My kit was ordered from rockauto. And if no record shows it, consider replacing the spark plugs as they're 100k mile platinum plugs. Mine looked none the worse for wear other than discoloration and could go another 100k miles but it's prudent to replace them.
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Thanks Fdryer, With winter upon us, I don't have a warm garage to tear everything apart. I'm hoping to just be able to get a peek if I remove the wire loom, engine mount and 2 torx bolts, Right now i'm just interested in being able to see the belt to determine if it's old or fairly new (And I might not even be able to tell)

I priced everything out on RockAuto, Less then $200 including plugs, Boots, timing belt, valve cover gaskets, Drive Belt, WP etc...But I just ordered a few parts from there that didn't fit, So I'll wait till I get closer to actually doing the job to order everything.

for now I'm just hoping to get a peek for my peace of mind, I got a feeling though, like you say, everything needs to come off first. So not sure how successful I'll be.

So those Idler pulleys should be replaced too huh? Guess I'll add those to the list. Thanks Again,
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I shopped for a kit including water pump, timing belt, and three new idler pulleys. The kit I bought also came with four camshaft seals I didn't need after inspecting for seal leaks. A separate serpentine drive belt was ordered too. The idler pulley bearings are replaced along with the timing belt as recommended.

Vue members may comment with more info if the least amount of parts can be removed to peek around the timing cover for belt assessment. The only suggestion I can offer if you can do this prior to full disassembly is to manually rotate the crankshaft to see more belt. Compression can be strong with plugs in place so slow rotation can turn thru compressions.
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Fdryer, Success, Well sorta.
I was able to remove the wire loom harness, support the engine (via oil pan method) and remove the engine mount, then remove the 2 star (torx) bolts, at that point, you can pull back enough of the top cover to see the top portion of the belt, In my case, that was all I needed. Sadly I don't think w/150,000 on it, It's ever been done.

The Belt looked pretty good, But I could see micro cracking going on in the rubber, So come spring I'll be doing a major overhaul, Hopefully for now, I can limp it along for another 4 months, I don't plan on driving it much and what I do will stay local.

Luckily I have other vehicles including a Sky I can drive.

Thanks for your advice, You were a big help as I was going to just reuse the existing Idler pulleys, Now I'll replace those too.
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