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Old 01-14-2019, 07:19 AM   #1
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Default Does a gen3 front bumper cover fit a gen2?

My gen2 1998 SL2's front bumper cover has enough scuffs on it that I have been keeping an eye out for one in good condition and the same colour at my local u-pull autowrecker, and while I have not seen one arrive in over a year, they did just get in a gen3 2000 SL2 in the same colour and so I am wondering if:

1) Would a gen3 2000 SL2 front bumper cover fit my gen2 1998 SL2 (bolt up, mate with the bumper internals, and have its panel edges/curves mate to existing panels)?

2) Does anyone know if it will be noticeable aesthetically (both cars have a moulded in horizontal groove about 1 foot above the ground, and while the gen3 groove is deeper than the gen2 groove I am not sure if the difference would be noticeable or not being as the bumper cover's groove is short and separated from the continuation of the car's line by the front wheel)?

The 2nd question is clearly very subjective, but my complete lack of fashion sense means I can never tell what something looks like until it is finished, and so any opinions are appreciated, especially if you have tried or seen this already.

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Old 01-14-2019, 10:55 AM   #2
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Default Re: Does a gen3 front bumper cover fit a gen2?

The lines don't really match like you've indicated but I think the real problem area is the headlight shapes. Regardless, I don't think it would look right.




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Old 01-14-2019, 02:07 PM   #3
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Default Re: Does a gen3 front bumper cover fit a gen2?

There are some minor differences, I think a few members here have done a 3rd/2nd gen exterior swp in the past. The chassis is the same on both. I would recommend inspecting each individual part for the differences, which will likely include the bolt holes and fastener locations.

Trottida already covered the headlamps are different.

I think the fenders are the same, though.

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Old 01-14-2019, 03:50 PM   #4
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Default Re: Does a gen3 front bumper cover fit a gen2?

Here's a good post by trottida showing almost similar angles of a 2nd and 3rd gen

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Here's a good post by trottida showing almost similar angles of a 2nd and 3rd gen

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This would require the fenders, hood, headlamps, and front bumper to complete. So, the bumper would work, but it would not line up with anything else.

Thanks for finding that, because I couldn't recall the last person that actually had done this one.

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Default Re: Does a gen3 front bumper cover fit a gen2?

The people that did this grafted in the fender if I remember right... quicker to find a 2nd gen bumper and slap it on... or have some one look out for it and ship it greyhound.

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Old 01-17-2019, 07:12 AM   #8
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Default Re: Does a gen3 front bumper cover fit a gen2?

Thank you all for your help, as it sounds like the consensus is that it won't work.

I am glad someone had already tried this or looked at it closely, because when I looked at a lot of gen2 and gen3 sedan photos I failed to see anything I thought would be noticeable except for the lower style line, but then as I pointed out I am rather style blind until I see something completely finished, and so you have saved me a lot of anguish.

At least I can scavenge the gen3 sedan's roof "drip mouldings" for our gen2 SL2 as those are identical (the clearcoat has started peeling off the drip mouldings on our gen2 and so replacing those will help keep the car looking nice).

Thanks again for the help, as it is much appreciated.

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while I have not seen one arrive in over a year, they did just get in a gen3 2000 SL2 in the same colour
Depending on the condition of the panels and how much time/money you want to spend, you could move over all the panels (hood, trunk lid, front and rear fenders, door panels, lights, everything except roof), converting your body from 2nd gen to 3rd gen.

I'm pretty sure that's been done before, though it is probably cheapest/best to buy a parts car, do the swap, and then sell the parts car

Guessing you are in Canada - maybe somebody has a line on other junkyards you can check? I found matching body parts on a trip to the Detroit area, about 90 miles from where I live.

Another thing you could do if you have lots of spare time - try the swap at the junkyard just for fit. Color does not need to match as you are just seeing what lines up

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