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Old 11-20-2019, 09:18 PM   #1
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I was in the Bridgeport, CT AutoZone looking for 5w-30 Full Synthetic oil to top off my daughter’s 2008 Nissan Sentra and I saw an irresistible Clearance Offer on Quaker State Full Synthetic 0w-20 for $2.00 per quart. I bought 3 quarts.

Question: If I combine 2 quarts of 0w-20 with 2 quarts of 10w-40, will I end up with 4 quarts of 5w-30? All common sense says the answer is ‘Yes’.

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Mixing viscositys is usually fine, although mixing brands usually isn't. Is all the oil the same brand?

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Old 11-21-2019, 02:53 AM   #3
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Question: If I combine 2 quarts of 0w-20 with 2 quarts of 10w-40, will I end up with 4 quarts of 5w-30? All common sense says the answer is ‘Yes’.
You'll probably end up with something a bit thinner overall. If it were mine, I'd only mix one quart of 0W-20 with three quarts of 10W-40. But that's just me.

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Old 11-21-2019, 08:49 AM   #4
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Old 11-21-2019, 09:26 AM   #5
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......Clearance Offer on Quaker State Full Synthetic 0w-20 for $2.00 per quart. I bought 3 quarts.

Question: If I combine 2 quarts of 0w-20 with 2 quarts of 10w-40, will I end up with 4 quarts of 5w-30? All common sense says the answer is ‘Yes’.
1-You are committing blasphemy as an oil monger. Unabashed adulterous manner mixing pure synthetic with crude oil. Heresy at the highest level of non religious activity.

2-You are not committing blasphemy as an oil monger. The engine will never realize your caring attitude to blend a wonderful concoction of two different oils and viscosities to allow this Sentra to have its cake and eat it (really cold weather starting) with a happy battery during winter season. If your daughter doesn't love you for this, disown her.

Pick one of the two.

I would have bought out the entire stock of syn oil at that price but that's just me. While I don't need 0w20 for NYC balmy winters, this would make my battery so happy. I would probably get out I in deep snow dumps so I can get stuck. Maybe entertain front wheel tire chains everyone raves about on YouTube........

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I would have bought out the entire stock of syn oil at that price but that's just me.
+1, not like you have to watch an expiration date - and you can always find a use for it later.

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Just to be clear, I would mix it with my old standby Walmart Super Tech Full Synthetic 10w-40 (instead of the usual 5w-30) and only at the next oil change.

Otherwise I have two good quarts of top-off-oil in the garage when nothing else is available during the cold winter months.

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Oh rats!?

Correction to post #5 in view of updated info. Ignore Step -1. In its place; blend away.

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Oh rats!?

Correction to post #5 in view of updated info. Ignore Step -1. In its place; blend away.
...and what about those baby step 'Synthetic Blend/Semi-Synthetic' oils? Whats up with that? I'm starting to think I can mix up just about anything labeled motor oil if desired?

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Now you've gone too far. Blasphemy!?

All seriousness aside, er, joking aside, the petroleum companies will never evah say "Do not commit oil heresy by mixing pure chemically made synthetic with home grown fossil fuel taking billions of years to bake up underneath us." Every oil company will forever shout spout compatibility with mixing oil whether fossil or made in a lab. It's presumed the majority of fossil fueled vehicles, airplanes and jets will use the recommended oil viscosity from owner's manuals. Mixing is regarded as ok and does not matter if diluting Mobil -1 with Harry's Bait&Tackle 5w20 genuine fossil oil. The engine doesn't care as long as it's lubricated and changing its diaper is done at prescribed intervals. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone performing a side by side engine tear down with one using crude against the other using synthetic against a third using blends. Run what you brung. Even though blending is fine, there are factors to consider.

Will you get the best of custom blends? Does one oil lower the overall performance of the other? Can you keep this blend in the engine longer to maximize performance while reducing costs? Does the engine suffer from mixing oils? In the latest rounds of the impeachment hearings, oil blends may not garner the attention of the National Enquirer or whatever the oil company rags trot out for public consumption.

Personally, I'd use whatever is sold on discount with branding, even Wal-Mart since Wal-Mart commands attention when selling to millions of loyal buyers. That form of loyalty gets the attention when Wal-Mart asks an oil company to develop or repackage oil but label it as
W-M and sell at lower cost. Imagine if W-M sold their brand of oil and it destroys engines across the country? That would be blasphemy or heresy. I can't remember which word is stronger in a non religious way. W-M would be boycotted by those loyal to it.

Naturally, I disavow anything stated as gospel. The old adage still applies - do your own research for fact checking. I'm just another diyer here. I've done my research and I'm sticking to M1 oil until my engine croaks. Steady synthetic with one or two bouts of regular oil since '05. 108k miles with zero oil consumption using extended oil change intervals that might scare many still clinging to 3k mile cycles.

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Old 11-21-2019, 04:29 PM   #11
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I heard someone say that someone said they heard Trump say "I don't want to mix oil. Just tell those Saturnfans to do the right thing!"... and he wasn't in a good mood either.

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This mix is nothing new. Many of us have used synthetic blend oil for years.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Motorcraf...SABEgI1gPD_BwE

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I heard someone say that someone said they heard Trump say "I don't want to mix oil. Just tell those Saturnfans to do the right thing!"... and he wasn't in a good mood either.
I interpret that to mean he was trying to cause a run on AmsOil 5W-30 HDDiesel oil.

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I heard someone say that someone said they heard Trump say "I don't want to mix oil. Just tell those Saturnfans to do the right thing!"... and he wasn't in a good mood either.
Oh dear! Now you've really done it. An oil thread mixed with Trump.

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Oil and Trump doesn't mix. I think oil becomes adulterated, degraded with unanticipated engine issues.

My apologies to forum and visitors for using the current fishing expedition, aka the impeachment hearings. Let's just call it QPQ/Gate.

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Oil and Trump doesn't mix. I think oil becomes adulterated, degraded with unanticipated engine issues.

My apologies to forum and visitors for using the current fishing expedition, aka the impeachment hearings. Let's just call it QPQ/Gate.
Impeachment hearings = The Less Than Special Olympics.......


It's sort of like a really bad reality TV show that you know will get renewed - despite abysmal ratings.

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This reminds me of when I had a yard car working at the salvage yard. A 2002 Tahoe with a 5.3 V8. It had an oil cooler line leaking and would leak about a quart every week as it ran for 6-7 hours ever day, mostly idling. I would often find completely full bottles of oil in newly arrived cars (wrecked cars, salvage yard remember), of various brands and viscosity. They all found their way into that 5.3 lol, from full synthetics to dino, 0w20 to 15w40. I ran it like that for well over two years, would put a new filter on it every few months, but never really did an "oil change" on it per say, just replenished what leaked out. That was probably 5 years ago now, I still work there but in a difference department, no longer in a yard truck, but that crazy thing is STILL going strong to this day. Had to put a few fuel pumps in it, GM's do NOT like junk yard recycled gas it turns out lol, but after the second one you learn to cut a hole in the floor to make it quicker the next time...

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...and what about those baby step 'Synthetic Blend/Semi-Synthetic' oils? Whats up with that? I'm starting to think I can mix up just about anything labeled motor oil if desired?

Oil company: looks at 5-qt jug of conventional oil selling for $10

Oil company: looks at 5-qt jug of synthetic oil selling for $25

Oil company: mixes on quart of synthetic oil with 4 qts of conventional oil, slaps on a "synthetic blend" sticker, sells 5 qt jug for $20

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Many moons ago ---

When I still rode a Norton 850 Commando - I had a riding bro - who had an older rat 750 Commando... It leaked and burned oil at such a rate - and my buddy was on welfare - so he would show up and ask if I had any waste oil from my latest oil change. He would filter out the nuts and bolts with an old sock - and dump it in his 750.... He went like that for years - till he checked out with brain cancer...

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Oil company: looks at 5-qt jug of conventional oil selling for $10

Oil company: looks at 5-qt jug of synthetic oil selling for $25

Oil company: mixes on quart of synthetic oil with 4 qts of conventional oil, slaps on a "synthetic blend" sticker, sells 5 qt jug for $20
Similar to anti freeze sold as 50/50 premixed with water at more than twice the price of one gallon of 100% antifreeze. After buying two gallons of premixed antifreeze, it costs more than a gallon of straight antifreeze.......... This must be the new math or people with more disposable income. Water costs more when buying it compared to turning on the faucet.

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