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Old 11-26-2008, 08:03 PM   #21
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when I purchased my first Saturn -- a 1992 SC -- new in 1992 it was not "cheap" and everyone paid MSRP except for Saturn employees. No rebates or cash back or gimmicks were needed to sell Saturn cars. it was fun to drive, light weight, dent and rust resistant, made in USA and looked cool. Oh yeah it got good fuel mileage and was easy to service. Saturn retailers were great and made for a pleasant environment in the showroom. No hassles. No haggling. I also looked at the Honda CRX, Eagle Talon, Ford Probe, Nissan 2000NX, Acura Integra sporty compact cars.

my second Saturn -- 1996 SC2 -- in 1999 replaced my 1992 SC and 1996 was the last year of that body style. I didn't like the 1997-00 coupe front fascia. Sorry. my 2002 SC2 replaced my 1996 SC2 in 2005. It was the last model year S-series coupe and I didn't like the ION. Sorry...

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Old 11-26-2008, 08:28 PM   #22
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I drive one because I was out of the country on assignment and my wife's brother (who was a poor postdoc) needed a car. My wife gave him our trusty 1993 Ford Escort with 85K miles and bought an SW2 as a replacement because:
- it had decent mpg stats
- was made in North America
- had nice safety features like airbags & ABS
- was a relative rocket ship compared to the anaemic Escort
- it looked nice

A year later, she decided she didn't like to drive the Saturn very much and bought herself a Subaru Outback wagon and I got the Saturn to replace an 82 Jetta Diesel with 220K miles. The Subaru has proven to be a lot nicer car with nary a problem -- a lot different than the host of niggling problems we've had with SW2.

However, with this forum, I feel I'm getting a better handle on the Saturn's quirks/weak points, so that makes me feel more confident I can predictably get 130K+ miles out of it. (Has just 60K miles now.) Just 6 months ago, we seriously debated dumping the Saturn and getting a Honda Fit because we were hit with a wave of annoying breakdowns/unanticipated repairs/maintenance that started totting up into real money.

It is *highly* unlikely we'll ever buy a GM vehicle again, given our mixed experience with one of their trustier marques. But based on Consumer Reports and our Escort experience, we would consider a Ford, if they're still in business and they have something that economical, safe, and reliable on offer.

Sincere thanks to all the folks here like Richpin & OldNuc whose stellar contributions have helped making the decision to keep our Saturn for six to ten more years actually conceivable. (My wife thought I was nuts at the time!) And given the parting gift of the GOP, the Great Economic Meltdown, I guess it feels better to own something that's fully paid for and frugal on gas.

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Old 11-26-2008, 08:31 PM   #23
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Not to shoot down your bubble or anything, but why the xb?? they're hideous cars. Is it 1st gen or second xB?
because any tool throwing monkey can tune a mustang and I dont enjoy rice so the pretty much threw out the idea of getting any honda product

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Old 11-26-2008, 10:13 PM   #24
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because any tool throwing monkey can tune a mustang and I dont enjoy rice so the pretty much threw out the idea of getting any honda product
Don't let 'em get ya down. The 1st gen XB is just not appreciated by all the sheep out there.

Back on topic:

I had a flawless 04 Mazda 3S sedan with the sport package, leather, moonroof, etc with only 24k miles on it. It was costing me $360 a month in car payments and $140 a month for insurance. It had electronically controlled throttle, variable valve timing, all the latest and greatest, but ya had to take half the engine compartment apart to find the air filter.

I suffered some severe financial reversals and started questionning my priorities.

I decided to get out from under the financial burden of this techno-wunder, take my $3500 equity and pay cash for a mid to late 90s Civic or Corolla.

Couldn't find one in my price range with a working AC (necessary here in Fresno) that hadn't been severely messed up by some overenthusiastic ricer, so set my sites on a domestic like a Neon or Focus or Escort. Those all seem to have disappeared or needed major work and had lotsa horror stories once they got past 80k miles or so--in other words, mini-Tauruses.

Then I started looking around when I was out driving and noticed that there were a lot more S series Saturns driving around than other small cars of similar vintage that had vastly outsold the Saturns when new.

A quick check of CraigsList and a few smaller mom&pop used car lots revealed that these things were also cheap to buy and seemed to run forever.

I got a nearly fully loaded 2000 SW2 from one of those lots within my budget.
After a month of driving this car I've actually become fond of an automobile in a way I haven't since my very first car, a '62 Corvair Monza I got back in 1968. Thanks to all the help I've found here I hope to keep this little paid for masterpiece on the road for many years to come. The insurance is half what I paid on the Mazda and it gets better mpg than any car I've ever owned, including an '80 Toyota Tercel with a 1.5 liter and a 5 speed that weighed 1900 lbs soaking wet.

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Old 11-26-2008, 10:53 PM   #25
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Because I'm cheap. Made in USA. 2002 SL, 73,000 miles, $2900 was just too good to pass up. Low of 33 MPG, high of 48.1 MPG, average commute 35-36 MPG is just icing on the cake.

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Old 11-26-2008, 11:20 PM   #26
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After reading through these posts, I find one common fact refreshing. "Made In USA" I didn't mention it in mine, but I'm proud that my car was built in Springhill, TN. We may not all have the same political views around here, but USA made is still common ground here. It's really too bad that the auto makers couldn't follow suit. Maybe they wouldn't be in such a predicament now.

Reminds me of the time when I was on my route, and this vet was asking for handouts. I don't carry cash, but we struck up a conversation when he spotted my suicide door. He started muttering something about all the Japanese cars, so I informed him the truth. He couldn't have been happier that my choice in vehicles was born in the usa.

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Old 11-26-2008, 11:25 PM   #27
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Well I bought a Saturn because at the time the price was right and so far it has served me well. As a Canadian all car companies are foreign owned anyway so a GM/Saturn is just as much an import as a Toyota.

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Old 11-27-2008, 12:54 AM   #28
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-made in the USA
-good mileage
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-easy and cheap to work on with good parts availability
-good quality
-handles well
-spacious enough for my family of three
-cheap insurance

I'll never buy or drive a Honda/Toyota/Nissan etc I don't care where they put them together. So for me looking for a small, well built, reliable, economical car that was domestic the Saturn was a natural choice. Unlike most around here I like their new product offerings as well.

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Old 11-27-2008, 01:38 AM   #29
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first car and can't afford another car yet so i'm stuck with the Saturn. No, it relly is a great car though.

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Old 11-27-2008, 02:03 AM   #30
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I bought my astra weeks ago and i think it's great...it has good fuel mileage, looks cool and it gives me a smooth ride.

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Old 11-27-2008, 11:54 AM   #31
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i attribute my purchase to a lack of options due to funds. we really couldn't afford anything else. we looked at the honda civic, but the salesperson was WAY too pushy and i didn't trust them.

i'd like to believe in the "buy american" way of life, but the sad truth is american cars have become overpriced and poorly designed/built compared to other brands. sure, you can still buy a great american car, it will just cost you double what a similar quality euro/asian car does. you can still buy a cheap american car, but they are total junk.

i really hope the big 3 are able to turn themselves around and become the premier car companies in the world again. it may take awhile, tho...


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Old 11-27-2008, 12:04 PM   #32
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About 2 years ago I had alittle over $1200 to spend on a car and my neighbor had a SC1 for awhile and told my parents it was a great car, made in USA and got excellent gas mileage so I searched autotrader, and craigslist and couple of dealerships. I managed to stumble upon a gold 1995 SL2 5 speed, and a dark green 1995 SW1 auto. The SL2 was $500, and the SW1 was $900, but only because it had power windows, mirrors and locks . I decided to go wth the SL2, it had less miles, got a lot more horsepower and I like the manual tranny.

But now Ive added power locks and Im in the process of adding power windows. Ive also repainted the SL so its the only black first gen sedan that Ive ever seen in Florida.

It also gets good gas mileage and is kinda peppy. Only complaint is the trunk is kinda cramped when it comes to adding amps and speakers but not really Saturns fault, I should have bought something with more space. But I just hit 140,000 and look forward 140,000

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Old 11-27-2008, 10:42 PM   #33
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I bought mine because I needed a daily driver that got better gas mileage than my Camaro. I was daily driving the Camaro and when premium started getting close to the $5 mark I figured it was time to shop around for a 4 cylinder car. Thankfully the Saturn has turned out to be a good, inexpensive, reliable car, and now the Camaro pulls weekend driver duty. Might not be as fast as the Camaro (actually not even close) but I've enjoyed my time with it. Having both cars is having the best of both worlds.

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Old 11-28-2008, 04:46 PM   #34
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I bought it for the fuel mileage...uh...period.

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Old 11-28-2008, 07:39 PM   #35
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I wanted a plastic car. I'd had it with rust that shows and door dings.

About 5 years before I bought one, I said I'd get a Saturn because it did not rust.

When I needed something for (#%&*) commuting to work, I went in and ordered one. I needed something that could get up and run with the big boys but not suck to much gasoline.

I did not even test drive one, but did pay attention to the final drive ratios between the single and double valves. Untimately, I said heck with it and went for more HP, less electrical, better radio and alloy wheels. The underlying plastic was greyish in color, so I picked grey paint. It was a good choice ...except other drivers can not see me as well. --It's called "drivingexcitement." - Sometimes like riding a motorcycle where no one can see you.

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Old 11-28-2008, 08:46 PM   #36
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Might not be as fast as the Camaro (actually not even close) but I've enjoyed my time with it. Having both cars is having the best of both worlds.
Well, F-Bodies are sometimes called the "plastic muscle car", so it makes sense that you would get a plastic economy car as a DD!

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Old 11-28-2008, 10:17 PM   #37
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I am a HUGE Mercury Cougar fanatic, and my 5.0L V8 Cougar and Supercharged V6 Cougar had me convinced there was no point to a 4-banger. I swore up and down I would NEVER drive a 4-cylinder (I hated, and still hate ricers). But then gas hit 2.50 a gallon, and was on the rise. Just then, my dad's buddy offered me 500 bucks for a 4 cylinder, Saturn SL2, I took it, figured I'd park the cougars and do body work on them instead of driving them, and use it for gas mileage. I fell in love with the car. Although no amount of exhaust mod's will ever make it sound as good as my Cougar, and it will never look as good as my Cougar, there's something about driving it, It is so comfortable, it sits just-right, and just feels so cool driving it, I think the whole, small-light thing is kinda cool, and the car, compared to my steel rust-buckets, feels like a go-kart on the highway, which is always fun :P. I am now about to buy a 2001 SC1, and when I graduate college, I'd like to look at a Vue, or whatever saturn has to offer new by then! I am still a bigger Cougar fan than a Saturn fan, but there simply isn't a better daily driver out there.


Oh and I really fell in love when I had to do the single piece of maintenance work I ever had to do on it, a water pump. I thought the Cougar was easy to work on, man! Took me 20 minutes before church and cost me 20 bucks after the core! Didn't expect that from a car that forgot that the engine is supposed to face forward and the BACK wheels are supposed to be the ones that turn!

Anyway, Saturn's are amazing, and I do believe there are few cars in that generation more reliable... if any at all!

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Well, F-Bodies are sometimes called the "plastic muscle car", so it makes sense that you would get a plastic economy car as a DD!
I'll agree with you on that, there is so much cheap plastic on the Camaro it's ridiculous. But just like the Saturn, it's what is under the hood that counts, the LS1 engine in the Camaro is a solid performer (touched by the hand of God some have said ) and the 1.9L in the Saturn has given me the MPG's I've wanted and then some.

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Well when gas hit $4/gallon here, I needed a car that was better on gas than my wife's corsica(that still got ~24mpg on the highway for a v-6). She drives about 70 miles a day round trip for work. At the time I had a 93 gas guzzeling fullsize Bronco and hers was a 96 corsica. So we got our "economic stimulus check and said it was time to do a little shopping.

My aunt's neighbor was selling the 95 SW2. I took a look at it and said, it's too small for me, but my wife wanted a small car for commuting. She looked at it and really liked it, so we bought it. Big plus was the low miles and leather seats.

Now that I have had it for a while, my reasons for keeping it are: great gas milage(~34 highway), super siimple to work on, peppy for a 1.9L twin cam, handles really well, and most importantly the wife likes it. All married men know, if the wife's happy, so are you

I bought it with 77K in May and it now has about 88K. Hasnt skipped a beat.

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