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Old 01-17-2005, 07:16 PM   #1
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My 1991 Saturn has a blown rod and it didnt start the day it happend, but it started today and i was wondering if there is something that i can replace, so I dont have to replace the engine!!! PLEASE HELP ME OUT
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My 1991 Saturn has a blown rod and it didnt start the day it happend, but it started today and i was wondering if there is something that i can replace, so I dont have to replace the engine!!! PLEASE HELP ME OUT
I'm not sure what you mean by "blown rod". Usually a "thrown rod" creates a large hole in the side of the engine block, making the engine lose oil pressure and become undriveable. What exactly happened, and what are the symptoms?
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I'm not sure what you mean by "blown rod". Usually a "thrown rod" creates a large hole in the side of the engine block, making the engine lose oil pressure and become undriveable. What exactly happened, and what are the symptoms?
I drove it down to put gas in it and on my way back it threw the rod, and it shut the engine off! I coasted it back into my drive way and now it sits is there anything i can do to replace that rod without replacing the engine! let me know
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it threw the rod
What are the SYMPTOMS? A really bad noise, hole blown through the side of the engine block, oil dumped on your driveway, oil pressure telltale on the dash lit up?
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to some testing to confirm the engine has a mechanical problem, then pull it out and rebuild the engine
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to some testing to confirm the engine has a mechanical problem, then pull it out and rebuild the engine
Thats the thing i dont want to rebuild or swap engines if possible.
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What are the SYMPTOMS? A really bad noise, hole blown through the side of the engine block, oil dumped on your driveway, oil pressure telltale on the dash lit up?
The first too are the only thing that has gone wrong so far!
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The first too are the only thing that has gone wrong so far!
Oh... a hole blown through the side of the block. Well, that's easy. Just plug it up with a few wads of chewing gum and keep driving.
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Oh... a hole blown through the side of the block. Well, that's easy. Just plug it up with a few wads of chewing gum and keep driving.
Just don't use bubbleyum, it won't stick. :smiles:
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o.k., let me see... you have a HOLE BLOWN through the side of the engine, and you don't want to rebuild it or swap it out? well, then, you have a nice saturn planter there, then. just park it, fill it with dirt, and plant some begonias.
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Thats the thing i dont want to rebuild or swap engines if possible.
you could do it the cheap way but i doubt it would last three months. you don't even know whats all wrong yet, let alone why it failed. you need to do some detective work. start by - drain oil(look for metal shavings). remove timing cover(look for jumped chain). and remove oil pan(check crank/rods).

if you don't need a rebuild i will be very surprized.
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you could do it the cheap way but i doubt it would last three months. you don't even know whats all wrong yet, let alone why it failed. you need to do some detective work. start by - drain oil(look for metal shavings). remove timing cover(look for jumped chain). and remove oil pan(check crank/rods).

if you don't need a rebuild i will be very surprized.

Please oh please tell me that post wasn't serious....the Block has a HOLE in it. There is NO WAY to use that block, it is officially a boat anchor. Replacing the block is the only way this car will ever run again. Best bet would be to look for a used engine from a junkyard, but remember 91 M.Y. has a lot of unique parts ie no torque axis mount, etc. Might be tough to find for a 14 year old car, and quite possibly, not worth the money.
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Please oh please tell me that post wasn't serious....the Block has a HOLE in it. There is NO WAY to use that block, it is officially a boat anchor.
So you don't like my bubble gum idea?
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Please oh please tell me that post wasn't serious....the Block has a HOLE in it. There is NO WAY to use that block,
duh stupid me, i was assumeing the hole was in the oil pan. maybe he can save the head.
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So you don't like my bubble gum idea?
bubble gum won't work. use duck tape, if that doesn't hold, use JB weld.
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lol you guys are funny, engine swapage is decently cheap Im looking at 700 bucks installed for a engine with 1/3 the millage and installed like i said So yea....If its(the car) in good shape and thats only what wrong Id swap the engine, if not sell it to a JY or your local saturn mechanic and move on
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bubble gum won't work. use duck tape, if that doesn't hold, use JB weld.
Oh, come on. It's just a little bitty hole...

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Oh, come on. It's just a little bitty hole...

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Mine doesnt look as bad as what urs does...I will take in consideration of what u all said....Im gonna get some pics of the damage today after school...if u guys wanna see the damage look me up on cardomain.com my sn is 1991twincamsl1
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doesn't matter how bad it looks...if there is a hole in the block, the ONLY fix is to replace it.
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Mine doesnt look as bad as what urs does...I will take in consideration of what u all said....Im gonna get some pics of the damage today after school...if u guys wanna see the damage look me up on cardomain.com my sn is 1991twincamsl1

Buddy, if the block has any hole in it, the engine is toast.
OK, lets assume you can fix the hole. (You can't but assume you can)
Then......
Take all the stuff off the left side to get to the timing chain.
Remove timing chain, intake, exhaust, pull heads (3 days later)
Fix screwed up head (Aluminim weld, grind, flatten, bla, bla, bla $300 later)
Now that the heads are off, look at broken piston, pull oil pan and stare at bent or broken crank.

Stare some more.....

Stare some more.....

Put parts into trunk, take to junk yard.
While you are there, look for another engine....
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